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Offline lil_Truck

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4dr Front Brakes ?
« on: February 29, 2004, 09:13:29 AM »
I've read that you just replace the front rotor and caliper from a 4dr.

The question is, when you replace the caliper, do you also replace the bracket that the caliper slides on??
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2004, 10:48:12 AM »
Yes, get it all from the knuckle out, backing plates
are not required as the 2 doors will bend with a big
Crescent wrench for a custom fit, this is a great mod,
2 door Track/Kicks should have been sent with these
from the begining.
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2004, 11:21:04 AM »
Question about the back 10" brakes, is the brake hardware the same? adjusters,springs,wheel cylinders,etc? If so could i just buy backing plates,shoes and drums?

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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2004, 11:55:36 AM »
That would be rear brakes  ::) But yes!  ;D

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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2004, 12:18:51 PM »
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That would be rear brakes  ::) But yes!  ;D

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;D Cool, now i will buy new backing plates from Suzuki and get some drums off ebay,shoes from autozone.

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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2004, 07:43:18 AM »
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Question about the back 10" brakes, is the brake hardware the same? adjusters,springs,wheel cylinders,etc? If so could i just buy backing plates,shoes and drums?


Not sure about that I know that there were 2 different size drums on the SWB models sold over here, pre 1994 and 94 on, though the fixings look similar.
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2004, 08:21:32 AM »
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Not sure about that I know that there were 2 different size drums on the SWB models sold over here, pre 1994 and 94 on, though the fixings look similar.


Im positive. Ive done it several times. As long as you stay with the same year they interchange. Im not sure if the cutoff is 94 or 95. Pre 94 one type (95?) 96 up is another.

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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2004, 04:17:29 PM »
 From what I've seen, the only 4door front brakes that would be beneficial, would be using the sport front brakes as they are larger. The piston in the caliper on the 2 and 4 door calipers are the same, as is the rotor size, the only plus is the vented rotor feature. Sports would provide more stopping power for the fronts.
As for the rears, just use the backing plates, drums and shoes from the 4 door and all the other junk from the 2 door, it's a bolt on! The only thing you need to remember is, the sport rears won't work unless you use the sport rear end, the abs sensors are on the end of the axle shafts outboard of the bearings, it makes the shafts longer. Stay in the same year frame for your trackick for the rear brakes, unless you plan on going flanged axles, 96-98.
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2004, 04:38:18 PM »
I'd have to disagree ID LWB, the 4 door calipers
I got looked the same but the pistons are definitely
bigger, and there is a very pronounced difference in
stopping power, this might be because these came
from a 16V 4 door I don't know, but I know it's helped
get these 33s stopped much better.
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2004, 06:48:51 PM »
 I'm not sure whether or not the calipers you found were off a sport or not, but comparing the 95 calipers off Heathers 16v 4 door with sammy calipers, the piston size looks the same to me. The only diff that I found between the two is the location of the bleed valve and where the hose attaches. There might be a difference in pruduction dates or whether or not it was a track, or a kick.
I know the 2 door calipers are the same dimensions as the sammy, except the mounting and hose and bleed are different, they even take the same rotor.
The European sammy calipers even mount the same, with the exception of the clocking position. I know, I own a Spanish built lwb, I think that counts, but I could be wrong! ;D ;D
« Last Edit: March 01, 2004, 06:49:16 PM by idaholwb »
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2004, 12:03:52 AM »
Aren't the front rotors off a 4dr larger in diameter?  Even if the piston is the same size the larger diameter will give better leverage for stopping power, compaired to the same caliper than a smaller dia. rotor would.

Of course a bigger piston would also be nice.
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2004, 03:10:41 AM »
 Nope, the rotor is the same size on a 4 door, just vented. The 2 door is exactly the same rotor, used one on a sammy once to replace a cracked wore out rotor.
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2004, 03:55:23 AM »
Rotors are the same Dia. 4 door have vents.
No it was a standard 4 door, not a sport. 96' I think
« Last Edit: March 02, 2004, 03:56:41 AM by wildgoody »
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2004, 05:39:20 AM »
Well vents are just for cooling, so does that mean the caliper pistons are bigger?
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Re: 4dr Front Brakes ?
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2004, 02:05:43 PM »
mine are, you could use either rotor
I think, but why, vents are mo betta
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