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Offline paps133

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What gears to run
« on: January 10, 2005, 06:17:23 AM »
Ladies and Gentlemen, I’m in need or some help, so I figured what a better place to pick some peoples brain. ;D ;D

OK first thing I need to know is, I wanted to run 33 or 32 on my 1995 geo tracker, 2door 5 speed.  This is my  daily driver, I would like to be able to reach speeds of (70 mph or 115km) in 5th gear, without having to push my engine to 5,000RPM’S.  ;) ;)

I’ve been told 5.12 would be fine, but I’ve also been told 5.83. This is where I need help. What gears would I need in-order to run these tires, to keep my highway speeds? ??? ???

Another thing, I’ve also wanted top know, what are the stock gears (ring & pinion) in the older tracker 89 to 94. Could they be use for bigger tires on my 95 ??? ???

Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated

Thanks Pierre

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Offline Bobzooki

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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2005, 06:21:53 AM »
Older Track/Kicks had either 5.12's or higher (lower number) ratios.

I run 5.83's and 31 X 10.50's on my 95 2-door Kick, and it's just right on the highway - well, it DOES have trouble with hills a bit, but on reasonably flat highway, 65 MPH is not a problem.

If you're running bigger tires, you'l have somewhat more issues.

BTW, on my rig, the speedo is dead on with my gear/tire combination (Goodyear Wrangler MTR's)
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2005, 06:33:16 AM »
I believe Sidekick/Trackers came with the following ratios.  Feel free to correct me if I am wrong

4.30:1
4.62:1
4.88:1
5.12:1
5.38:1
5.62:1

Kind of a wide range of options to guess from.
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2005, 07:00:53 AM »
32-33's I would definately do 5.83's. If not you will end up never using 5th gear. With 5.83 and 33's I can run 70-75 all day except on the big hills.

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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2008, 10:11:58 AM »
Hi everybody,
While searching web about ring-pinion gears, i noticed this forum and some threads inside.
One of the useful thread (for me) was this. 
I'd like to run 30" tyres instead of 195/80R15 stock tyres outside diameter of 27,28" on my 3 door hard top  manual transmission 1,6lt 16v '98 Vitara JLX. I guess the stock ring-pinion set is 5,12:1 and it seems ok to use them with 30", right?
If i should have to lower the ratio i think i'd prefer 5,62:1 ratio. Does anyone know which Suzuki models use this ratio as stock?


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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 11:38:05 PM »
   5.83 seems to be the gear ratio of choice for tires that size.I don't know if you could find yhem in another vehicle,but Calmini sells them and I am sure others do as well.mabey Trail Tough,but not positive.
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2008, 03:13:26 AM »
Thanks for your reply kingzoo,
I can find calmini 5,83:1 r&p set but i don't think that the exact ratio i'd need for 30" tyres is 5,83:1
5,62:1 will be better. At some posts that i've read, it is mentioned that 5,62:1 has been used as stock r&p ratio on early '90's 5 door models. I think a stock one will cost less beans  :)

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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 07:37:59 AM »
5.62s were stock only in early 89 model 1.3L Track/Kicks.  5.38s were stock in early 8 valve 4 door Track/Kicks. 
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2008, 08:42:04 AM »
i would say for sure go lower than 5:12 i run 32"s and i cant pass joggers, my sollution is to divorce the case and install a samurai case with 4:1's or 6.5:1's that way ill get my high range reduction as well as low range unlike the trackick type plus the sami gear sets are cheaper
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2008, 10:06:58 PM »
5.83's are not being made as I've been told for the kicks...
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 06:55:17 AM »
   Calmini says they have the 5.83's in stock.But that is also what they said about a friends 3" likt kit.It took 3 months.
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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 10:50:03 AM »
Here's...

89-98 Trackick gear ratio

89     2dr 1.3L carb 5speed man. 5.625
89-95 2dr 1,6L TBI 5speed man. 5.125
89-95 2dr 1,6L TBI 3speed auto. 4.625
91      4dr 1.6L TBI 3speed auto. 4.625
91      4dr 1.6L TBI 5speed man. 5.375
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 5speed man. 5.125
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
92-98 4dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 5speed man. 5.125
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 3speed auto. 4.30
94-98 2dr 1.6L MPFI 4speed auto. 5.125
96-98 X90 1.6L MPFI auto or man. 4.625

4.625 gears have an 8/37 tooth count
4.30 gears have an 10/43 tooth count
5.125 gears have an 8/41 tooth count
5.375 gears have an 8/43 tooth count
5.625 gears have an 8/45 tooth count

Re: What gears to run
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 11:41:07 AM »
Thanks MaD.72,
I got the idea for which model that i have to chase after;
89     2dr 1.3L carb 5speed man. 5.625
But i don't think that i could find, because i haven't even heard about these 1,3lt models here in Turkiye.

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Re: What gears to run
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 12:02:40 PM »
   Calmini says they have the 5.83's in stock.But that is also what they said about a friends 3" likt kit.It took 3 months.

just called calmini 5 mins the 5.83 rear for sidekick have been discontinued and their is no expectation that they we be made again.
Wheeler-87 Samurai JX. 7" lift, 1.6 TBI, lockers hybrid rear, 33" Swampers, 6 to 1s in a billet housing.
RV Dingy-2003 2 door tracker
Tow-97 PSD F250 Crew SB Dana 60 conversion
87 samurai-spoa ZookEV electric conversion.
RV- 31' Monaco Mckenzie