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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #36 on: September 24, 2008, 10:12:02 PM »
mines loud when its cold it cold idle is at 2600 rpms for about 30 secs then drops to 1300 for a little over a minute and idles at 900 when finally warm. do you have a compression tester?  or even check your sparkplugs see if there oily and what color is your exhaust when its warm? 

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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #35 on: September 24, 2008, 09:03:05 PM »
I changed the fuel pump filled er up and seems to be holding just fine now for about 3 days. The oil pan seems to be seeping, but not enough to drip so I think the 6 hours of driving at 3500 probably sucked out a lot. My new concern is how noisy this thing is when I drive it cold. I know its best to warm things up fully but I have never had a rig that sounds this bad when cold. Are these rigs commonly noisy when cold? Is it associated to piston slap? Im just trying to figure out if its 'normal' or not.

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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #34 on: September 23, 2008, 04:18:38 PM »
yea thats alot. i lose about a quart every 2 weeks i think its from my dist. o ring.  you dont see any oil leaks anywhere?
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #33 on: September 23, 2008, 03:27:08 PM »
Losing 2 quarts in a couple of days with a 3 hour drive? That sounds like something serious. Your talking what less than 300 miles and losing 2 quarts of oil?
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #32 on: September 23, 2008, 07:48:24 AM »
Could I be hearing piston slap? Do these things have old school forged pistons? Thats what is sounds like? Sounds like a diesel just fired up cold. I have 129,000 miles.

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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2008, 07:28:29 AM »
OK heres the latest.... I checked my oil again and I was 2 quarts low! Just a few days before I was full but then I took a 3 hour drive on the freeway at about 3 grand the whole way. I filled er back up and it got a little quieter. Also adjusted valves but seems to me to be really loud in the morning when I first start it up still. I think the fuel pump was leaking oil so I changed that. No time to change oil yet. When I do an oil change, I heard 4 quarts. Is that right? With or without filter?

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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2008, 07:56:30 PM »
3.5 quarts 10w30 & 1qt lucas ,,,, I had good luck using their trans stuff in my trans but iguess if you have a weak oil system  a addative is still only a temporary fix Ive used it in my harley  but that uses thick 20 w50  I just wouldnt put any thing too thick in especially when it s cold
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2008, 11:07:41 AM »
wow i never heard of that maybe it was a fluke? did he put all lucas in ive heard people doing that instead of replacing a quart like it says on the bottle and you should change your oil first before adding it. i know a guy i raced with he would put it in his wifes car thinking it would solve the sludge problem she had. Ive been using it for 5 years on my vw and she is a stroked high revving all motor alcohol running little monster.
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2008, 05:44:10 AM »
I think you should use 5 w 30 like all my service books say to use  one of my buddies tried to put lucas in his oil & it made the oil so thick it wouldnt drain or pump  properly thru the oil pasages(the yare tiny) in the head/block & his cam siezed up
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2008, 08:52:03 PM »
you use the timing hole if u read step 5 it says it right there. you could try it doing it in the front. do the front and then try the timing hole and see if there's a difference shown before you mess with dist. maybe throw some white out on there so its easier to see
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2008, 03:04:07 PM »
thanks a lot this is very helpful. as for my question on the timing hole. when you time this motor you actually shine you light into the hole right? i ask because i noticed i have a conventional timing pointer and mark on my crank pulley too. so which is the correct place to shine a light? or is both ok?

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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2008, 02:02:53 PM »
yea hes right you can try Lucas oil addictive. it is gods gift i think. it keeps oil up in the top end some how. i use it for my vw gti and my turbo laser. and with the timing hole vws have them too im not sure what its for but does anyone know why car engineers do what they do  ???  there's is a oil pressure light the sending unit is just a dummy switch im pretty sure. i use to have one but i took my cluster out ( custom one is being made right after i type this )
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2008, 11:14:46 AM »
Im going to do an oil change with some good multi viscosity oil with a low winter rating and see if it helps. PS doe these rigs have a low oil pressure light or shutoff? Also I have an extra oil pressure guage so I could toss in a mechanical to get an idea, but where would I put it. Im not familliar with these little japenese things  ???

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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2008, 08:05:13 AM »
oil pump maybe? could be on its way out if its not properly circulating the oil like it should...especially at intial start up...having little or no oil at startup will be loud and clanky like your describing, not to mention will definately cause problems  ???
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Re: What weight of oil
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2008, 07:55:45 AM »
One more question and hopefully I adjusted them right. I didnt use the timing window because the rubber was disintegrating, but I used the crank pulley. Why does it have the timing window if it also has a marker on the crank pulley like everything else. I have never seen a 'timing window' before. WTF???