Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers

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Offline Ridjobradi

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Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« on: April 08, 2018, 11:12:17 PM »
I need some help looking for a possible loose connection or bad ground.  My '97 Sport currently has fast blinkers, with no lights out and no change to LED bulbs.  The rectangular side marker lights do not blink when the turn signal is on.  The daytime running lights are also not working.  I have disconnected everything I could think of to look for an issue.  I have not tried replacing the flasher relay, behind the glovebox.  All fuses are good.  All lamps are good.  Disconnected alarm and trailer light hookup to remove those as possibilities.

With light switch in the off position:
No DRL
Front blinkers work
Rear blinkers work
Side / corner markers do not light with blinkers
Brake indicator on dash works with hand brake

With light switch on in any position
Headlights work
front blinkers blink so dim that the parking lights hide the faint flashing
Rear blinkers work
Side / corner marker lights on, but not flashing
Brake indicator on dash work with hand brake
« Last Edit: April 09, 2018, 07:14:14 AM by Ridjobradi »

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Re: Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2018, 04:39:54 AM »
Side indicator lights do not operate with turn signals.  There should be a ground on both sides at front inside of motor well (right where fender bolts  to fender lining).  I have had similar problem when ds wire broke.
93 Tracker,XL7 springs & 1" raised spring pads in front with YJ springs in back, home built bumpers rear & front (w/winch), 2" x 4" rock tubes,  ARB front & rear, converted Sami rear to IFS, 33x12.5x15  aluminum rims, roll cage, 2.7L w/5 speed auto.

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Re: Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2018, 04:05:37 PM »
Thank you BRD HNTR. I checked both of the w ground bolts in the fenders, cleaned with electrical contact cleaner, replaced a partially stripped bolt on the ds and checked again.  The issue is the same.

I checked both from side marker sockets for continuity to ground, with the engine off. Both connectors have continuity and were tested to the positive battery terminal with a test light.  I don't think the hot wire of the socket should have continuity with the lights off.  I started disconnecting connectors to see if I lost continuity to ground from the red(ish) wire of the light socket at any point.

Fuses removed - continuity
DRL device removed - continuity
Large grey connector at ds firewall - no continuity on ds, kept continuity on ps

Replaced blinker relay with EP34 blinker relay from my old Sidekick that had Led's. The blinkers will not flash at all.  The dash indicators come on, but don't blank. I received a work call at the time and didn't check the side blinkers themselves.

The ps blinks a little faster than the ds.

I did several things in the time frame that the blinkers went bad; drive through hood deep sea water (nothing in the cockpit), replaced front turn signal assemblies, installed alarm (removed), put dielectric grease in most connectors. I am concerned the sea water or a short is the issue.

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Re: Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2018, 03:29:04 AM »
When I had the issue we repaired a ground wire to ds side light and (I think) ds headlight ground.  As I am finishing up with complete new 06'wiring in 93' body I know that getting all grounds reattached was very important, and that is what fixed that problem.   Perhaps when you were greasing your connections you do not have one tight.  I was getting voltage feedback (from lack of ground) in strange circuits.  So double check the headlight grounds.
93 Tracker,XL7 springs & 1" raised spring pads in front with YJ springs in back, home built bumpers rear & front (w/winch), 2" x 4" rock tubes,  ARB front & rear, converted Sami rear to IFS, 33x12.5x15  aluminum rims, roll cage, 2.7L w/5 speed auto.

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Re: Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2018, 07:31:19 AM »
You may add up another ground for them!
« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 07:39:51 AM by rasmeidirtrider »
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Re: Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2018, 06:03:59 PM »
Thanks  again BRD HNTR and thank you Rasmeidirtrider.

I will check all the connections again and then run new / additional grounds for the lights.  I stripped the old Sidekick down to the frame and engine today.  I kept the wiring harness, so that I can trace the wires back, if needed.  I hope that I don't.
« Last Edit: April 13, 2018, 06:13:21 AM by Ridjobradi »

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Re: Sport side / corner marker lights and front blinkers
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2018, 06:22:59 AM »
Added a ground from from the front blinker wiring to the body ground inside the front ds fender, connected jumper cables from negative battery terminal to bolt in fender, and another cable from negative terminal to the engine.  No improvement or change.

I am going to be gone for a week, but will start again when I return. I am going to check the circuit from the connectors under the steering wheel where the switches tie into the harness.