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Offline yzf438

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Re: more power for sidekick
« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2010, 10:15:55 AM »
we have used K|removethispart|@N on our dirt track cars for years.  eating dust at 8500 rpm. running at about 210-230 degrees all night long.  no prob.  I think that proves how good they are. clean them take care of them  they are awesome.

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Re: more power for sidekick
« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2010, 03:53:44 PM »
Rhinoman I've always respected your opinions and knowledge, and would tend to agree with you on this except for one thing: you seem to contradict yourself when stating " they are rubbish at filtering dust and fine particles"  then later in the same sentence you state:" for outright flow, then clean and oiled they are probably the best filter."

I only just saw this reply.
I probably should have said "clean and oiled they are probably the best performance filter". The dyno tests I did comparing cone filters showed that an oiled K&N gave the best flow/bhp, with a big enough filter I got no loss of power over an open intake, K&N claim that the filtering gets better the dirtier it gets which I'm sure is true but as it gets dirty the flow drops off and you lose power. Some of the other filters clearly had a more open gauze/element which would give worse filtering but also flowed less, this seems to be down to the K&N having more of a "bellmouth" shape to the moulding where the air enters the carb.
On my road bike running a K&N element in the stock airbox I was seeing dust/dirt in the airbox which never happened with the stock filter, this was the same gauze used on the cone filters. I had to clean it at roughly the same interval as I would have replaced the stock because the performance tailed off noticably.
I used to run bikes on open intakes but you can get a lot of muck in the engine, particularly when its wet and there is a lot of spray. I put the filter on the racer after dirt in the carb caused the slide to jam open, very nearly causing a big high speed off. On susbsequent engine rebuilds I didn't see the same scoring on the bores that I used to get running open.
Like a lot of tuning its a compromise between engine longevity and power.
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Re: more power for sidekick
« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2010, 10:24:36 AM »
I've run K&N's on motorcycles, snowmobiles, cars and trucks all with no problems.  When they first came out for bikes there was testing done that showed an oiled filter trapped dirt as well as paper and when it got dirty it filtered better.  I've also used foam based filters and they don't flow like a K&N.

I have meen riding the sand dunes since the early 1980's here in Oregon and we have always ran K&N filters with great success. I run them on my cars too. I went deer hunting over in Eastern Oregon for 8 days and racked up 4-500 hundred miles and when i got back I pulled it off to clean it and the intake boot and maf was spotless.

Bentparts,
have you ran thru the quarter with the turbo? I'm one of those jonesers that runs everything I own!
1994 Kick, 16v,header.2.5" exhaust,ported MAF,home made mufflers, K&N filter,5" lift with jeep LJ front springs on the rear and Ford ranger springs on front with 2 3/4 spacers,OME struts with 3" strut spacers,31/10.5 Hankook Dynapro MT on 15x7 black D's.

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Re: more power for sidekick
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2010, 09:15:14 PM »
The subject of filters comes up from time to time. Here is one such topic to have a read of http://forum.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=177704&hilit=filter which is one of many discussions.

ISUZUROVER has done filtration R&D for a number of years but believe what you want.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2010, 09:21:23 PM by cj »

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Re: more power for sidekick
« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2010, 04:08:06 PM »
Hi

I have seen comments regarding purchasing headers and cams for the Sport 1.8L here... Would someone be so kind as to point me in the right direction to where I can find/purchase such items? I have searched the internet for over a year (I do feel competent at internet searching) and have never found any one with these products for the Sport 1.8L.

I know that most competent exhaust shops should be able to fabricate a custom exhaust from the exhaust manifold and back, but logic dictates to free up the restriction closest to the head where the heat is most extreme, meaning the exh. manifold/header.

Personally I have contemplated having the head, intake and exhaust manifold Extrude Honed for increased performance. Has anyone tried this and if so how has it come out in regards to power increase and milage?

At the moment I am also planing a 2.0L swap into my 1.8L Sport. I have a new/used engine and plan on doing a .20 over bore and total rebuild before the 2.0L goes in. Any info on the swap if some one has done this is appreciated.
Regards from Iceland
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