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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2007, 01:19:09 PM »
I think there would be some demand.  10 years ago these vehicles weren't nearly as cheap as they are now.  There are a few people that have been home-building their own drop brackets lately.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2007, 01:52:31 PM »
I'd love to get something like this for my 2000 Grand Vitara... how different can it be? Has anyone done the Hagen widening trick on a 99+ Vitara? Maybe I'll be the first.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2007, 01:59:02 PM »
Why are the alignment cams hard?  There are plenty of sources for the parts, I wonder if Toyota IFS alignmet cams have the correct length and diameter of bolt to work.  With laser cutting of the parts a sloted hole is no sweat either.  You could even have the laser etch alignment marks for the inside of the blocks that the cam turns against so that positioning the blocks is a no brainer in a small production scenerio.

I think that now is a very good time to be getting in to the market for Track - Kick parts.  More and more people are looking to them as an affordable way to get into the 4x4 scene and the more parts that are out there the more attractive they become.  Parts that make them more capable make them more attractive yet.

Just my $0.02
« Last Edit: May 04, 2007, 02:02:47 PM by MKOLSEN22 »

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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2007, 07:43:14 AM »
I thinkm it was Ziggy that had one of these kits. He didn't like it at all and swapped it very quickly for a Calmini kit. I know a couple of other people that ran the kit for years and really liked it. It seemed pretty capable though neither of them ran the piggy back shocks on the front, they made it far too stiff. There was someone else on here that had the Procomp setup and still had the shocks on the front (one of the Dutch guys?). The kit does suffer from bump steer.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2007, 07:58:30 AM »
I have a Pertersens mag from 1995 when the kit first came out and the price was almost 700.00.  no demand back then.  I came acrossed this one so I could reproduce them but maybe at an even 3".  the hardest part is making the alignment cams... do you think that there is a demand?

Is there any way to get a copy of the article?  Or is it just a little blurb about the release of the kit?  It would be interesting to see pictures of the complete kit and what their review of it was.

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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2007, 10:51:09 AM »
it was just an add with price.  no pics.  I went through all my all mags looking for information,  found none.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2007, 02:43:16 PM »
someone else on here that had the Procomp setup and still had the shocks on the front (one of the Dutch guys?).

ed oorklep, if you PM him I'm sure he'll be happy to tell you all about the kit.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2007, 07:37:24 PM »
Well I've been working on the design of the front drop bracket and the following picture is what I have come up with so far. 

When looking at the picture just imagine the center section being the top of the bracket and the outer two pieces being bent down so that the bolt holes all line up.  The holes closest to the center of the piece are for the existing a-arm mounting points and the others are the new dropped a-arm mounting points. 

Some boxing of the brace's underside will be in order for strength, but so far I'm pretty excited about the prospects.



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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2007, 08:03:41 PM »
So far so good eh! Keep it up. ;D
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2007, 12:59:19 AM »
wow this is just what the doctor ordered. sign me up for 1 set please.

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When looking at the picture just imagine the center section being the top of the bracket and the outer two pieces being bent down so that the bolt holes all line up.  The holes closest to the center of the piece are for the existing a-arm mounting points and the others are the new dropped a-arm mounting points. 

shouldnt the four outer holes be a little farther out for the hagen widening? also, we might need some 5" differential drop brackets since the stock unit can already accomodate a 3" drop.

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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2007, 03:20:05 AM »
Yeh I have the Pro comp kit. I used to run the extra struts in the front but they were far to stiff like Rhinoman said so I've got m off too. The kit does suffer from quite a bit of bump steer and I'm thinking about a solution too a drop pitman arm would be the best option imo but I have to get someone to make me one cos I'm not that good with the tools  :P
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2007, 03:46:09 AM »
wow this is just what the doctor ordered. sign me up for 1 set please.

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When looking at the picture just imagine the center section being the top of the bracket and the outer two pieces being bent down so that the bolt holes all line up.  The holes closest to the center of the piece are for the existing a-arm mounting points and the others are the new dropped a-arm mounting points. 

shouldnt the four outer holes be a little farther out for the hagen widening? also, we might need some 5" differential drop brackets since the stock unit can already accomodate a 3" drop.

alain.
our cheap fab guy can easily do that...let's do it

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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2007, 05:02:42 AM »
shouldnt the four outer holes be a little farther out for the hagen widening? also, we might need some 5" differential drop brackets since the stock unit can already accomodate a 3" drop.

You can't drop the diff more than 2" without cutting out the crossmember. IIRC the original Procomp kit dropped/rotated the front diff less than the Calmini kit, it retained the original 3rd mount.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2007, 06:41:10 AM »
shouldnt the four outer holes be a little farther out for the hagen widening? also, we might need some 5" differential drop brackets since the stock unit can already accomodate a 3" drop.

You can't drop the diff more than 2" without cutting out the crossmember. IIRC the original Procomp kit dropped/rotated the front diff less than the Calmini kit, it retained the original 3rd mount.
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Re: A-arm drop brackets?
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2007, 07:42:55 AM »
So what did ProComp do for the rear suspension?  A-arm replacement, or spacer?  New coils or coil spacer?
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