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Offline SWIPER

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Air Filter
« on: November 10, 2005, 02:59:24 PM »
Simple question:

If you take out your factory filter and airbox from a Tracker/GV and put in one of these:



Does it make an improvement?  I put in one of those...



 drop in K&N filters a while ago, but I wonder if the cone filter thingy pictured above will sound different or create any additional power?  If the next step to cut a hole in the hood and put one of these on?


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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2005, 03:16:37 PM »
I have the one in the middle, nice and quiet and it adds about 50 h.p. with the 16v upgrade ;D
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2005, 04:37:50 PM »
Well i have the cone filter it does make a different in sound. as to the 50 hp i got ripped i would say 2-5 tops
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2005, 08:24:47 PM »
oh oh, here we go again

well if you put thesticker on your back window, it gives you 10 hp.  if you advertise on both doors, you get 25 hp
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2005, 09:35:31 PM »
i found that my truck got worse mileage with the cone filter being that it is sitting right over the exhaust so i put the factory air box back in with the k&n filter. now it seems to run better when hot and the gas mileage improved a bit.

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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 01:07:18 AM »
Well I got a much smaller scoop, but
it came from a Nissan 300ZX Turbo,
so it adds 80 HP



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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2005, 06:47:47 AM »
Quote from: bandit86 on November 10, 2005, 08:24:47 PM
oh oh, here we go again

well if you put thesticker on your back window, it gives you 10 hp.  if you advertise on both doors, you get 25 hp

I never read the instuctions that came with mine and foolishly put my sticker on the rear R/H side window :-[

Wish I had read them now  ;)
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2005, 07:36:56 AM »
All your need is a 3" exhuast pipe J bend, and a $12.00 ebay Stainless steel mesh cone filter, the blitz copy they sell, and attach it to the stock rubber hose, My filter end points to the firewall and is protected from mud and water.  adds a nice growl and some power too!
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2005, 09:24:36 PM »
My 93 had a K&N cone filter from a 90's Ford Mustang 5.0L that my buddy had sitting around.  Worked great and he said he didn't have any problems putting it on and gained a little power when he did it.  He simply clamped it onto the end of the stock intake tube thingy going towards the fender and "bodged together" some bracing to hold it up.

After I bought it I left it alone because it didn't give me any trouble.  It was rather protected as it was all the way over by the fender, got some direct cold air from the fender hole, and had all the stuff around it to keep it clear of flying muck.
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2005, 08:58:20 AM »
My mate, put a cone on and i have a replacement filter, the cone sounds better, watch out for puddles, depending where you are gointo put!

Dont want any water getting in!
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2005, 02:49:22 PM »
I'm going to add my 2 pennys here ...

First, the "low restriction" filters (aka K&N) really aren't going to add much. Search around for actual flow comparisons and you'll find they don't do much. People "claim" they do, but honestly I think it's a placebo effect.

Second, if you're offroading (and likely to be in a dusty environment), do you really wanna toast an engine for a neglible increase in performance?

If you wanna prove me wrong ... run three 1/4 mile runs with a nice clean stock paper filter ... then run three 1/4's without any filter at all ... post up the results.
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2005, 02:53:54 PM »
I forgot to add ... IF you have modified your engine and/or exhaust then you do NEED to open up the in flow ...

My point tho, with a stock engine and exhaust, an "aftermarket" filter only gets you a sticker in the window.
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2005, 03:23:18 PM »
Guys, now ya done it I'm gonna preach........

     I keep repeating the engine is a system if you are gonna let more in then ya gotta let more
out.

     If all you do is put on a low restriction airfilter I would be surprised if you get more than 1-2hp, if that. It will sound cool, look cool but by itself without the magic decal it ain't gonna do much.

     If you install a low restriction aircleaner AND a good low restriction exhaust BOTH will work together to give you a noticable performance boost. Add a header, now yer cookin.

Just my opinion, based on spending alot of money over the years.

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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2005, 04:19:41 PM »
I'm gonna put an old MSD sticker on mine so i can go faster!  the actual unit left me with my honda.... but i still got stickers!  AND the one that says that its DOT legal!  talk about FLYIN'!!!   nah, forreal tho, how's this... snorkel, K&n, MSD (the 6AL, or offroad unit), blaster 2 coil pack, what kind of header for a 96 16v?  no cat-converter.... and finally i need help on some kind of muffler... stock, turbo, glasspack, or should i go big with a magnaflow, or dynomax.... oh yeah... some Iridium spark plugs and Tailor 8mm performance plug wires.... that is my dream setup on my tracker right now.... welll, except for the 4.3 v6 of course!!   but since my engine runs good as it is, i don't want to replace it right now....  oh yeah, a couple other things you can add to all of this... a new cam, port and polish (or whatever it is when you get bigger pistons and stuff), high output alternator, optima red top battery, synthetic oils, run premium gas all the time.... new high performance fuel injectors, tweaking on the computer (which i don't know much info about)...    umm, what else guys? i've actually said everything i can think of that is performance related only... this exludes gears and such.....oh yeah, no nitrous oxide either because that sounds stupid on a 4x4....supercharger, MAYBE, if they make them for the track/kick.... (i've seen one on a sami on here somewhere)
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2005, 03:26:36 PM »
OK.  so the vehicle is a 2003 chevy tracker 2.0 L with a 5 speed. 

  • I have gotten rid of the exhaust manifold and its stupid"pre-cat" catalitic converter #1.
  • I have also gotten rid of the factory equipped catalitic converter #2
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  • All this has been replaced by a set of header pipes from suzisport.com and a magnaflow (supposedly free-flow) universal ODB2 compliant catalitic converter.
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  • The factory exhaust pipes are still there (no big diametre pipes yet)
  • A magnaflow free flow muffler.

All this plus a k&n drop in filter.  So once again the question....is it worth while to stick one of those superdee-duperdee cone filters on....or will there be no difference at all?
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