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Offline zaggy

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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2005, 04:02:51 PM »
I think you will get some difference with the swap seeing as you have the other mods.
But it might not be the best idea if you do alot of off roading or water fording.

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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2005, 09:06:39 PM »
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     If you install a low restriction aircleaner AND a good low restriction exhaust BOTH will work together to give you a noticable performance boost. Add a header, now yer cookin.

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Take what Zag said, then add a rebuild, plane the head .010, port and polish, throttle body spacer and a Calmini cam and you'll find that there is a bit of performance to be had outta the old 8v ;)
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2005, 01:07:36 PM »
I have two cones on a three way piece of pipe.......SHE ROARS!  but not a lot more, i don't reckon the power has improved at all and my fuel consumption seems to have gone up?  I think its because i rag the engine to hear the roar!! 
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2005, 02:05:41 PM »

The Stainless mesh filters flow WAY MORE then any k&n, but some people might not feel comfortable running one since you can literally run one of these under a faucet and it runs thru like there is nothing there.   the Mesh is very very very fine though, i cant see anyway it would hurt a motor.


on the topic of panel filters, sure they work great too, however its the airbox design in a alot of vehicles that hold things back and not make any more power, they put restrictors and funky baffles on the airbox to cut down on noise and may cut down flow too. somthing to think about.

another thing to think about is that these are little trucks but they are 4x4s and a bit heavier then a regular car! 
My old 92 ford festiva only had a glasspack, cone filter and bumped up timing, its a 63 horsepower 1.3, but the car FLEW!, it would run circles around my tracker with 2" gutted cat back glasspack cone filter, etc, etc...   the little festiva would eat cavaliers and stuff!, its call power to weight ratio.. and these truckets dont have such a good  power to weight ratio.

After i get years of good use out of my tracker and finnaly be able to afford a subaru wrx sti,
then the time will come along where i can pull the tracker back out and do a small block chevy swap. ;)
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2005, 02:22:48 PM »
I would think the ultimate Tracker/sidekick Engine swap candidate would be a late model mazda RX7 engine. Simply for the low weight/high output nature of it. Throw a pair of side draft 4 barrel carbs on it, twin turbos, intercooler etc... and your tracker would maintain its lithe curb weight, but gain massive boost in the ponies! Might want to beef up the driveline if you go this route though :)
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2005, 02:30:44 PM »
a N/a rotory IS a great swap, i saw a tracker with a rotary at lakeland drag strip in fl race one time, just a street port, very streetable setup, about 3 feet of air under the tires at launch and he almost hit the wall!
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2005, 03:44:34 PM »
There is a guy in deland who has a tracker w/rotary for sale. I think he is asking a little on the steep side, he wants $3700 for it. If the price was a bit lower, I would have bit on it.

He also wasn't very polite on the phone, seemed quite rude and bad attitude. Oh well, win some, loose some :)
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2005, 04:27:29 PM »
so in my lwb sami ( 1.6 8 v swap ), with my custom build exaust ( 2 " no cat and a flow tech red hot glass pack ) would i notice any thing by putting a k&n cone on? what do u guys mean by it changes the sound? im a little lost on that one.... i gotta build a hood scoop or customize my intake soon to for hood/engine clearance before i wear a hole through my intake  ::) , any one ever put a 92 aluminum intake on an 89 throttle body?
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Offline Twan013

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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #23 on: November 18, 2005, 03:47:04 AM »
festiva, what are you talking about bad power to weight ratio??  i think you're crazy!  all i've got done to mine is a catless exhaust, and its faster than i could have ever imagined!  the only problem i have is burning tires... the most i can do is spin out in water or gravel, and just make a slight squeak on pavement...  but as far as acceleration, i couldn't ask for more... i haven't been past 70, but that's just because when i get that fast, i'm doin like 5000 RPM in fifth gear or somethign like that... i'm afraid that running that high RPM for so long will ruin the motor... 
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #24 on: November 18, 2005, 05:36:56 AM »
Again compared to a regular FWD car, these vehicles have a bad power to wieght ratio!.
but ya have to think, they were never designed to be hot street machines. they were designed to a durable small displacement engine with useable torque, somthing that you dont have in most fwd small cars. torque that can take you up a long tall incline without shifting out of 5th gear and still maintain 65mph. where for instance my old festiva i would have to get into 3rd and scream it to hold speed up the hill.
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #25 on: November 18, 2005, 08:58:07 AM »
Quote from: Twan013 on November 12, 2005, 04:19:41 PM
....supercharger, MAYBE, if they make them for the track/kick.... (i've seen one on a sami on here somewhere)

Really ??

Maybe this one ?



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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #26 on: November 18, 2005, 06:52:29 PM »
no, not quite.. this was in a red sami....     on another subject... i don't know... maybe it would make you faster, but to be honest it looks like crap.... that picture looks like everything is just thrown together... maybe this is just coming from my import craze from a few years back, but in the engine compartment, the aesthetics are just as important as the performance... like, i bought that MSD thing, and a blaster II coil pack (both red), so i bought the tailor 8mm performance wires in red, and bought a pack of wire spacers in red... i was gonna paint the valve cover and other parts red, but never got around to it... but yeah... the wires came from the plugs, straight up all parallel to each other, and bent perfectly to join at the spacers... then they came up and around the valve cover and to the distributor...  all perfect, tidy, etc. etc... 
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #27 on: November 18, 2005, 07:28:15 PM »
Twan, I would really watch what you say here if i were you. you posted some pretty nasty and uncalled for comments,

Nitromax's setup looks great, and just about everyone on this board would KILL to have a setup like that!, i bet he is making some very respectable AND dead reliable power too!

nitromax,can you give us some details on your setup?
Im guessing these were only available for a very short time right?
I bet the intake is either custom or very hard to find right?

Sort of like the old skool VW rabbit blowers from the 80's that worked very very well.
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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #28 on: November 20, 2005, 10:09:16 AM »
so yea, i threw on a k & n cone filter seemed to work fine until i noticed a hesitation if i pop the throttle on fast a few times, is this commen? should get some of that seafoam stuff for the throttle body? any idea why it would do this?.... other then that i did notice a bit better pick up on the hyway and can now get a little more bent on wet corners :P
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Offline Twan013

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Re: Air Filter
« Reply #29 on: November 21, 2005, 09:19:20 AM »
I apologize... i didn't mean to offend anybody... basically, my point is that i'm used to, and would rather look at a cleaner engine bay...

anyway, on another subject... has anyone tried those Fram Airhogs?  are they even around anymore?  I always thought those were basically an expensive replacement filter that didn't do much, maybe SLIGHTLY better than original... but someone said they are actually low restriction and real good on performance... any comments on these?  the cheapest place i can find a K&N is at a local autoparts store, they have to order it, and its gonna cost me 47 i believe... autozone and advance will cost my like 50 and 55.... can i find them online for cheaper?  even after paying shipping, etc.?  in other words, if the price PLUS shipping is going to be more than just buying one from a store, it will be a waste of money, right?
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