Hello Guest

Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pics)

  • 23 Replies
  • 8794 Views

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

*

Offline SiKiD_01

  • 574
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • Fully Sik, Flying Vit.
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2004, 04:37:29 AM »
what about increasing the track width, as lifting the ifs reduces track between the two lower ball joints.

you could make/fabricate new lower arms, that may be longer, etc, to accomodate the front drive shaft incresed length from telescoping shafts.

i also want my front diff centre to be as high as possible, so it is way out of anythings way. i want all to be tucked up underneath.

centering the front diff sounds the goods, but how easy/hard would that be, then theres going to be a lot of custom work! the vitara diff is towards one side due to the transfer output.

i've also always wanted to put gear reduction hubs on my vitara, both front and back, but only the hubs, and keep everything suzuki power!

same as the HUMMERs, the all have independant suspension, front and back, and also use the reduction hubs, that, i think, gives them about 5"s more lift or something about there..... not sure....

anyway, how sik would those hubs be, and the vitara would tower over all with ifs or not.....

dreaming..........

still dreaming...........

now drooling...........

just woke up. damn. nice dream though.

anyway, i'd like to go SAS, but i LOVE to stay IFS and have more travel and clearance than other sammys etc...

or am i dreaming again?

steve
« Last Edit: September 06, 2004, 04:41:33 AM by sikid_01 »
1989 Suzuki Vitara... Stock Standard

something closer to home: www.DARWIN4X4.net[/url]

outerlimits4x4.com = Great Tech, Bad Influence

*

Offline wildgoody

  • *
  • 8134
  • 67
  • Gender: Male
  • Turbocharged 150HP 1.6L 8V 93MPH 1/4 mile
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2004, 04:51:42 AM »
Quote

I think we've discussed this type of joint haven't we?
http://www.bigelowgroup.com/


Not with me, still the same problem exists, how
can I get those on both ends and keep them
supported, plus I get 40* with the CVs I'm using
and they are a more compact package (length room)

Quote

On my -7, the front ds is not parallel to the centerline of the vehicle. It actually goes outward. It does appear to be horizontal with the frame, though. Wild should look at the design of a center mounted diff, ie Hagen style, or the minimum relocate the diff housing more center. This style design leads to longer axle shafts, and longer a-arms, all of which have to be same length to get maximum articulation, then this also ties into the tie rods being parallel to the lower a-arm.
In your layout for keeping the tires straight up/down during suspension cycle, is basically done with real long control arms, and keeping them parallel to each other during the cycle. (For a quick comparison, 2 fingers parallel to each other going through movement, in comparison to 2 arms going through the same movement. You get more with longer arms.)


Center diff is great, you just got to make one, I'm not ready
for that route yet, I'm also not using upper and lower control
arms, just a lower A-arm, for now it's Top Secret  ;)  the control
system is attached to the frame for it's reference and input, but
the single A-arm mounts to stock location.

To relocate the A-arms to a point where there can be upper
and lower equal length arms, you would have to mount them to the
outside of the frame, and that would make a shorter arm over all,
even if they were widened a few inches, I have put 3 years of thought
into development of a new front suspension, I don't move fast and
abruptly, I take my time and really work out the details, Heck it took
me 10 years to finally follow through with the turbo   ;D  but I really got
serious in the 6-9 months before the actual install

Wild
« Last Edit: September 06, 2004, 04:52:58 AM by wildgoody »
Real Trucks Are Built, Not Bought,
And Chrome Don't Get Ya Home.  

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

*

Offline wildgoody

  • *
  • 8134
  • 67
  • Gender: Male
  • Turbocharged 150HP 1.6L 8V 93MPH 1/4 mile
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2004, 04:59:30 AM »
Quote
hey wild can u explain to me what the difference between a shock and a strut is..they both look the same to me


A strut has a clamp/mount on the bottom that holds
the steering knuckle and brake hardware, and a shock
just has a stud/eye or eye/eye mount point, if you see
the two side by side, they are very different, and you
will know which is which right away, I'll post a pic    ;)

Wild
Real Trucks Are Built, Not Bought,
And Chrome Don't Get Ya Home.  

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

*

Offline wildgoody

  • *
  • 8134
  • 67
  • Gender: Male
  • Turbocharged 150HP 1.6L 8V 93MPH 1/4 mile
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2004, 05:37:23 AM »
OK I finished a drawing for illustration purposes  ;D



Enjoy

Wild
Real Trucks Are Built, Not Bought,
And Chrome Don't Get Ya Home.  

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

*

Offline Mike71

  • 1449
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #19 on: September 06, 2004, 05:47:48 AM »
Quote
OK I finished a drawing for illustration purposes  ;D



Enjoy

Wild



sweeeet thanks wild..you are the man =)
623hp kb cobra sold! 100hp kick new DD :P

*

Offline jagular7

  • 1026
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • Jagular7
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #20 on: September 06, 2004, 03:03:01 PM »
The pics also show that the strut body rotates as you turn the knuckle. I haven't noticed if the whole strut (including the shaft) rotates. This relates to better tolerances due to the seal working on up/down as well as side/side movement.
Lenexa, KS

*

Offline wildgoody

  • *
  • 8134
  • 67
  • Gender: Male
  • Turbocharged 150HP 1.6L 8V 93MPH 1/4 mile
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #21 on: September 06, 2004, 05:44:00 PM »
The shaft does rotate inside the strut body

Wild
Real Trucks Are Built, Not Bought,
And Chrome Don't Get Ya Home.  

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.

*

Offline jagular7

  • 1026
  • 0
  • Gender: Male
  • Jagular7
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #22 on: September 07, 2004, 01:12:39 AM »
If the shaft rotates with the body, then all this pivots/rotates off the rubber bushing up top? That would seem odd for a design.
Lenexa, KS

*

Offline wildgoody

  • *
  • 8134
  • 67
  • Gender: Male
  • Turbocharged 150HP 1.6L 8V 93MPH 1/4 mile
Re: Ford Lift KICK  (Cheap Ford lift coils with pi
« Reply #23 on: September 07, 2004, 04:08:48 AM »
No, you missread/understood what I wrote,
the shaft rotates in the strut, not with the strut,
there is no pivot on the top, the strut shaft stays
in one place as the body moves with the steering

Wild
Real Trucks Are Built, Not Bought,
And Chrome Don't Get Ya Home.  

An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.