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Kilroy

H2O Cooling Problem
« on: October 27, 2004, 05:47:22 AM »
I just purchased a 1989 Suzuki Tracker and drove it home from Maryland without any problems. Today I drove it to the beach and it was over heating, I managed to get it home and I called the previous owner to see if he would know what the problem might be and he too was puzzled, and recommended me to come here as he was a regular here. I took the theromstat out and replaced the radiator cap because after pressure testing, it read 2 lbs. . Now with the new one it reads 13 lbs. . I removed the thermostat because I don't need heat. The vehicle is boiling over at the over flow tank. Could this be a fan clutch gone bad or the H2O pump on it's way out?  ???

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Offline TomKat

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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2004, 06:19:00 AM »
Your engine needs a thermostat regardless of whether you want heat or not. Without the 'stat in there, the coolant is allowed to circulate too fast through the radiator before it is sufficiently cooled. Get a stat back in there, and be SURE you use a 50/50 mix of water/ antifreeze. Pure ethylene glycol does NOT transfer heat.
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Kilroy

Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2004, 07:10:58 AM »
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Your engine needs a thermostat regardless of whether you want heat or not. Without the 'stat in there, the coolant is allowed to circulate too fast through the radiator before it is sufficiently cooled. Get a stat back in there, and be SURE you use a 50/50 mix of water/ antifreeze. Pure ethylene glycol does NOT transfer heat.


Thermostat has been put back in and Radiator refilled with Prestone 50/50, and problem is still there. Anymore suggestions?
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2004, 07:18:42 AM »
Probably your water pump. If the vehicle has been used off road, check the radiator and make shure it does not have mud caked in it (from the outside not allowing air to flow through).

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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2004, 07:24:21 AM »
I just saw that you bought CZ's Tracker. Check with him and see if he out a new water pump on it when the motor was built. If Reynolds did put a water pump on it get a contact name and number there and check with them.

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Kilroy

Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2004, 09:06:24 AM »
Called the previous owner up and he is having a H2O pump sent to me at his expense from a vendor in Oregon.  :D
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2004, 09:33:56 AM »
Pump should be there monday. Anytime you need parts call
Rick or Cindy Hawkins |removethispart|@ 1-888-SAMURAI and they will be happy to help you. * NOTE * It will be far cheaper to get it from them then to buy it from the dealer. - CZ
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2004, 09:39:28 AM »
im sorry u had to sell ur rig cz :(
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2004, 09:48:22 AM »
That was very cool of him to buy you a water pump like that. Most people would just tell you its your problem now.
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2004, 10:06:24 AM »
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Called the previous owner up and he is having a H2O pump sent to me at his expense from a vendor in Oregon.  :D


When the engine/radiator is cool, you could pull the radiator cap off, start the engine, and watch the water in the radiator.  Once the coolant in the block reaches the temp rating of the thermostat, the thermostat should open and you should see water flowing through the radiator.  If not, then that confirms the water pump (or a really bad clog somewhere) as the problem.  If the water is flowing well enough to say the pump is good, then you may want to check the hoses when the system is at normal operating temp.  Sometimes, hoses can collapse and stop flow.  Finally (I've never seen this problem personally), but I've heard/read that there can be air in the system that interrupts flow and also allows the coolant to super heat (steam) in pockets somewhere in the block.

I have to second the very cool action of CZ in taking care of the problem after the sale 8)
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2004, 03:26:02 PM »
Welcome to the forum Kilroy,
You got quite a Kick from CZ.
come back often with Questions
or just to read and chat

Wild
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Kilroy

Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2004, 07:23:51 PM »
Yes CZ is very supportive and he has stood by his agreement to warrenty the engine, drive train and all parts bumper to bumper that are new. The exception to our agreement was the body. Everything is new on the 'trucklet' and I have all the reciepts of what he has done to the trucklet he even gave me the 3 thousand dollar sound system with the sales ticket for the equipment included with the purchase price of 11K. I highly recommended him to my business associates to build them their beach buggy's / off road hunting buggy's. One of my girl friends has contracted him to build her one just like mine except she's paying more than I did, for him to build her a 2004 ZR2 2-Door 4x4 Convertible quite like Calmini's duck stalker.
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2004, 07:34:10 PM »
I would just drain the antifreeze into a pan and take the thermostat back out and fill the radiator up untill it comes out where the thermostat was then fire it up and give it a good rev and see if it is pumping(just dont run it more than a minute) it should come out real fast that way and be cooler and safer! and hose down the area real good so dogs and cats don't drink it.
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Re: H2O Cooling Problem
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2004, 03:45:22 AM »
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For him to build her a 2004 ZR2 2-Door 4x4 Convertible quite like Calmini's duck stalker.


Great, now I'm going to have the image of trying to crawl up to ducks all stealthy like in a Tracker in my head all day...
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