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Offline paul abc

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Hard Question help!!!
« on: March 24, 2010, 09:12:04 PM »
Hi my question is. will a 86-89 suzuki samuari fit in the back of a 2008-2009

ford superduty long box

Length (in.)     98.00
Width at Wheel well (in.)    50.90
Width at Wall (in.)    63.90
Depth (in.)    20.00


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Offline M!KE

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2010, 09:21:00 PM »
Thats what I've been hearing,But I heard a chevy longbox.It would be close.I tryed youtube with no luck.
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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 10:57:00 PM »
With the tailgate down, but the cables probably won't take the weight,
then there is how would you load it? flat towing would be a much easier
solution, unless there is no way to do that

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Offline The Factor

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 11:19:34 PM »
I talked with my dad about doing this in his longbed F-350. We agreed that it would work, because the truck is a 1 ton pickup (stock weight of a samurai is around a ton). I'm not familiar with the carrying capacity of an 08/09 super duty (150 = 1/2 ton; 250 = 3/4 ton and so on). The other thing to worry about is destroying the tailgate. You should probably take the tailgate off and just have the ramps running directly to the body --> The only area you really need to worry about being on the truck is the wheels plus either the front or the rear of the vehicle (depending on which works better = more tire in the bed, I would think that reversing the samurai into the bed would give you more space). I have not actually done this before, only talked about it and thought it through.
Best of luck!


If you do this, be sure to take pics
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Bobthebiker

Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2010, 01:22:07 AM »
the newer generation "superduty" trucks, arent ANYTHING even close to the older F-Superduty 1.5 ton trucks of the 80's/90's.  the newer ones are just 1 ton pickups from what I'm aware of.  the REAL F-Superduty didnt come with a pickup bed, it was mostly either box bodies, wreckers, or flatbeds and the like. 

but even though you could dimensionally fit a sammy into the bed of one I'd imagine, why would you want to?  well actually scratch that.  my friend would get me to do it by betting wouldnt fit, and I'd just prove him wrong somehow.  so yeah. I'm sure it CAN be done, but not hat it SHOULD be done
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Offline BRD HNTR

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2010, 07:46:53 AM »
It is not just the weight that is the issue.  It is where the weight is.  Because of the bumper, fender, radiator gap, you do not get into any real weight until you get to center of tires, that moves your 1000# back in the box.  If the whole thing did fit inside the closed box 1000# stacked in the back 2/3 would start lifting the front end making it less desirable (unsafe) to drive.  A small trailer, or tow dolly would be much more usable.
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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 08:00:30 AM »
I have an F-350 that I know I had #4000 in the back, rode
nice and smooth, so I know my Kick would ride fine at only
#2500 putting the engine to the front, but again, should you?
I don't think it's a good idea

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Offline marcello

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 09:52:16 AM »
There is a picture somewhere online (maybe this site) that I saw with a Sammy in the bed of a Dodge 3\4ton.  The truck wasn't even sagging in the back......lol. 
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Offline doughboy0379

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2010, 11:05:33 AM »
I have another concern about the whole idea, how about height issues and I do not mean clearing bridges, but center of gravity for the pickup, say your Zuk is lifted and you have that body and engine high above the natural center of gravity of any pickup, it may cause massive body roll for the pickup and it may not be able to handle even slow speed cornering let alone freeway curves it would just be to top heavy. just a thought, also think about a sudden gust of wind while at speed even going straight down the road a Zuk is kinda boxy and does not take to kindly to large gusts to well.
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Offline paul abc

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #9 on: March 25, 2010, 08:33:37 PM »
Thanks for all the help guys, i believe i seen one in the back of a truck one day on the hwy. I have looked at all the specs and actually measured the box of a truck today and it should fit i just need to measure a SAM to be sure. As for the weight i have looked into that and it is no problem even towing my 8000 lb R. V.  but was thinking of adding air ride to help. Its a FORD it will take it with ease. Many of you are asking why Well i want a 4x4 beater when camping and need to tow my camper and well better yet because i can.             Keep letting me know what you know the more info the better
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Offline The Factor

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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2010, 08:24:36 AM »
I just found this pic:
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_090103/images/readersrides_september_03/suzuki%20in%20pickup2.jpg

Although it's a Dodge and I think a 1500? Looks pretty good, but that tailgate looks like it might be taking some damage.
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Offline The Factor

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2010, 08:29:18 AM »
actually thats a 3/4 ton whoops, correction Dodge 2500.
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Offline M!KE

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2010, 09:41:10 AM »
Quote from: The Factor on March 27, 2010, 08:24:36 AM
I just found this pic:
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_090103/images/readersrides_september_03/suzuki%20in%20pickup2.jpg

Although it's a Dodge and I think a 1500? Looks pretty good, but that tailgate looks like it might be taking some damage.


Thanks for the pic, thats sweet
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Offline zukimoo

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Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2010, 01:45:23 PM »
fitting or not it wouldn't be legal around here. They'd charge me with unsecured load just to get me off the road. They'd say that in a roll that the zuke would not stay with the truck and it's got to stay attached.

just rent a tow-dolly or flaot..alot less trouble.
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Bobthebiker

Re: Hard Question help!!!
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2010, 02:08:20 PM »
from a legal standpoint,  seeing as you really cant do much to secure your truck in the bed of another truck,  I'd simply stick to trailering.      considering how limited your tie down points are in the bed, well, yeah.
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