Doesn't anyone us BFGoodrich  in  the States? They last pretty long and have good pavement manners.  Just don't get the A/Ts.  Their not good for anyhing.

Hey wild goody, you would of been proud of me on the last heep run that I went on, 16 valve at 6k spinning tsl's in three feet of mud where guys with 40's just went through and the 38.5's got stuck behind me  

Doesn't anyone us BFGoodrich  in  the States? They last pretty long and have good pavement manners.  Just don't get the A/Ts.  Their not good for anyhing.

How do BFG Mud Terrains compare with TSL's?

My only concern about driving on the road is that I don't want to wear the tread away, but I want maximum grip in the mud/on the trail.

I have run mt's for about twenty years because I used to get them for 85.00 ea. deliverd for 35's, I still have a set of at's ko's and I like them for powdered snow and sand with the air out of them but the mt's are real hard to beat for all around and some have stud holes in them.(I have two stud guns and a coats 40 40 and a spin balancer) I sipped my last set they did as good as the studs for going streight, I could not hardly get home befor I had it done.

How much of a difference is there in offroad performance between the bias-ply and radials? Is the longer tire tread enough to pay the extra $40-50?

I know you can air down the bias ply tires a lot more than a radial tire, because of the thick soft sidewall.

I remember someone on this board said that they run their Bias TSLs at 0psi and they dont pop any beads.  Thats pretty sweet if you ask me.

Doesn't anyone us BFGoodrich  in  the States? They last pretty long and have good pavement manners.  Just don't get the A/Ts.  Their not good for anyhing.

I got 31" BFG mudders, and I've got no complaints.  They clean out real good and they have reasonable traction.   Hehe my dashboard is always covered in mud when I come home from a day of wheeling because of the back tires cleaning out.  

I feel that the tsl's clean with less horse power than a mt, It takes alot of power to clean a large tire to get it spining enough, my mt's lasted ten years each set and I had them on a 3/4 ton 4x4 and a cj7 with a v8 and a nother cj7 with a 350 vortec with 35's at the same time, the side walls were starting to crack but they still had plenty of tread, they got hard after ten years then I had them sipped(had a friend do it for me, most places won't touch a used tire).

Mr Fuelish    atta boy, show them Heeps.

I have seen BFG MTs pack in the sticky goo and
the Swampers are dropping the mud like it's sand
or they are Teflon coated  
(Teflon is a registered trademark of the Dupont Corporation,
this is in no way an endorsement of Dupont or Teflon)

LOL  

I ran the LTB Swampers 33-13.5/15s so low that
the low PSI tire guage had no reading, I guess
1/2 to 1 PSI, no bead problems.

Wild

i'm running 34in TSL's and they work so awsome off road and are ok on the street too.

stu

i have swamper ssr's on my samurai (27x9.50) . they are about two years old and have about 20,000 mostly road tires. compared to spare which has never been on the ground, they look like new. my samurai has been driven most of those 20,ooo miles on road. recently i put the on my sidekick for about a month and i hated them! TOO LOUD!, however the ride was not too bad. now they are back on my sammi and all is right with the world. they are awesome off road, i run them on 8" rockcrawler rims with 10lbs of air and they are awesome! i have run bfg muds in the past and was very happy with thier performance. if this is for your daily driver, i reccommend the radials as you won't have to worry about flat spots in the tire until they warm up.

I decided to go with the Goodyear MTR on my Kick. Everyone I know that has them loves that tire. Not the best in the thick mud, but I dont hit that alot.

has anyone tryed the Krawlers yet?

stu

has anyone tryed the Krawlers yet?

stu

Way 2 Much $'s for me. The MTR's were bad enough, but the Crawlers were double the price of the MTR's
Zig

For me BFG's are way too expensive for my taste. I am thinking about going with some hi-tec retreads.....

Eric switched from swampers to mtr's. When I asked him about it he said he loved the mtr's. But like zig, Eric doesnt get into deep or thick mud very often.

I was wondering when I'd get to the MTR's.

I've ran my MTR's now for two years.  And like you I'm in Michigan.  Mostly mud.

There are other tires that are better for mud, but we're so light that there has hardly been anyone (with a jeep on 35's) that's made it through something that I couldn't.  If fact I was wheeling up in canada last fall and on the trail was an up hill mud fest.  Out of about a dozen riges, mostly jeeps, I was one of three that made it up under their own power.  And I made it the quickest out of all.  It was like it was dry dirt???

I also find that they are quiet on the road also.  And if you go to places that have some rocks, logs, and other obsticals.  You can't beat a MTR with about 4-6lbs in them!!