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SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??

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Offline Xenu3000

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SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« on: June 12, 2011, 06:16:03 PM »
I just noticed that the front spring perches on my samurai are different heights.  The driver's side sits an inch taller than the passenger's. This was installed by the previous owner and I think he said it was the RRO bolt on kit.  Can anyone confirm if this looks right or would otherwise make sense to have it this way?
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 09:52:03 PM »
Maybe they figure the drivers side is heavier because you sit on that side.  :D

Are the top of the spring pads the same height when measured from the ground?
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2011, 06:08:27 AM »
From the 2 photos;
Are those new top "Perches" welded in at all?

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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2011, 07:58:16 AM »
Maybe they figure the drivers side is heavier because you sit on that side.  :D

Are the top of the spring pads the same height when measured from the ground?

If it is the weight thing, they certainly had me in mind when designing the kit!.  They are different heights when measured from the ground.  I'll measure the body and see if that is level.  I see that RRO makes two different lift heights for for this lift.  Im wondering if they sent the guy 3 of the shorter height and one of the taller.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2011, 08:02:33 AM »
From the 2 photos;
Are those new top "Perches" welded in at all?


No, they can be unbolted and removed.  So, if this height difference is not correct, maybe RRO will sell me one stand alone of the correct height with out having to buy the whole lift again. Or if not, maybe I can grind this one down to match the others.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2011, 08:42:30 AM »
No, that is the standard size perch kit. 
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2011, 09:02:29 AM »
No, that is the standard size perch kit. 

So Jonny, You've seen this before then with the different height on the right and left?
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2011, 11:25:50 AM »
Yep, I have a Samurai with those SPOA perches.  They look exactly the same as yours.  I bet that they sit about the same height when they are mounted on the axle as the passenger side of the axle tube is thicker than the driver's side.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2011, 12:19:35 PM »
Yep, I have a Samurai with those SPOA perches.  They look exactly the same as yours.  I bet that they sit about the same height when they are mounted on the axle as the passenger side of the axle tube is thicker than the driver's side.


Thanks, I'll have to take a closer look after work.  But its good to know it wasn't just a mistake.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #9 on: June 15, 2011, 08:20:33 AM »
I would also get some "U" shaped ubolts, that wrap around the axle tube, so the threaded ends point up, instead of down.  That way, the ends won't catch and get hung up on stuff, plus it will protect the threads.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #10 on: June 15, 2011, 09:35:09 AM »
Yes, but he has the bolt on kit.  For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #11 on: June 15, 2011, 09:58:31 AM »
For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.

Which should be done anyway...IMO.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #12 on: June 15, 2011, 10:02:39 AM »
Yes, but he has the bolt on kit.  For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.

I could probably make a plate that sits on top of the whole thing that would allow the U bolts to be flipped. I dont know how safe that would be - adding to an already complex setup.  To be honest Im not sold on SPOA yet. My old Zuk's SPUA setup rode smoother and steering was tighter.  If I do decide to stick with SPOA, I'll eventually get the proper weld-on perches.  
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 10:07:17 AM »
Yes, but he has the bolt on kit.  For him to use the std u-bolts, he would need to weld the brackets to the axle tube.

I could probably make a plate that sits on top of the whole thing that would allow the U bolts to be flipped. I dont know how safe that would be - adding to an already complex setup.  To be honest Im not sold on SPOA yet. My old Zuk's SPUA setup rode smoother and steering was tighter.  If I do decide to stick with SPOA, I'll eventually get the proper weld-on perches.  

I prefer SPUA myself.  I run SPUA on my off road samurai with 33s.
Isn't there already a plate on the bottom side of the axle?  If so, if you get the "U" shaped ubolts that wrap around the axle tube, you can just move that plate to the topside.
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Re: SPOA Front Perches, Different heights??
« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 10:30:37 AM »
I prefer SPUA myself.  I run SPUA on my off road samurai with 33s.
Isn't there already a plate on the bottom side of the axle?  If so, if you get the "U" shaped ubolts that wrap around the axle tube, you can just move that plate to the topside.

I see what you are saying.  I wonder why RRO didn't design it that way? All I can think to counter is that Glen thought that this way better utilized the strength of the factory perches underneath for a more stable mount possibly?
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