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Title: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 01, 2005, 02:45:17 AM
So, we tow it over to our place so it's in town (the truck was about 50 miles away). This way he could drive it over to the driveline shop that's nearby. It's currently there, getting drivelines. (It had a homebrew on it temporarily)

It's got new springs, and is getting shocks in the next couple of days too.

Here's some shots from Sunday:

(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6773.jpg)
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6774.jpg)
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6776.jpg)
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6778.jpg)
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6780.jpg)

:)

http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/index.html
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: 92Sidekick4x4 on March 01, 2005, 03:11:52 AM
just curious, what do your neighbours think of you guys and your freinds,? cuz i know my old neighbours hated my brother and his freinds 4x4s coming around ;D
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 01, 2005, 03:17:08 AM
Eh, they don't mind. We turn off the loud tools after 10 oclock. The guy across the street has a street car he tunes and works on too.. so it's ok.
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Autobot on March 01, 2005, 05:35:35 AM
Awesome looking tracker! Where did you get it from? I didn't catch the previos thread on this one.
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Natebert on March 01, 2005, 05:53:24 AM
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Awesome looking tracker! Where did you get it from? I didn't catch the previos thread on this one.



He (Walt) built it for himself.

~Nate
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: bioniconion on March 01, 2005, 12:48:22 PM
 ??? it looks so easy..just new axles, weld up the leaf spring perches and put them in...and custom drive shafts..is that about all an sas is or am i missing a BIG part of it? lol


by the way i LOVE IT~
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: HotRod on March 01, 2005, 02:57:50 PM
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!
That is so sweet ;D
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: track_this on March 01, 2005, 05:08:36 PM
what is that blue piece on the front end?? looks like some reverse steering thing ??? and what axles did he use?
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Natebert on March 02, 2005, 01:07:18 AM
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what is that blue piece on the front end?? looks like some reverse steering thing ??? and what axles did he use?


Slightly modified Calmini, Sammy, K-link steering.

Jeep J200 axles (dana 53 rear, dana 44 front. 4.27:1 ratio)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Natebert on March 02, 2005, 01:09:42 AM
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??? it looks so easy..just new axles, weld up the leaf spring perches and put them in...and custom drive shafts..is that about all an sas is or am i missing a BIG part of it? lol


by the way i LOVE IT~



Also, got a 283 under the hood connected to a turbo 350, and 205 t-case, OH and a K-5 blazer 24 gallon gas tank (which fits perfectly between the frame rails)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: explosivo on March 02, 2005, 03:08:25 AM
Glad to see the flat leafs gone... those were bugging the hell out of me ;)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Zukipilot on March 02, 2005, 03:23:52 AM
Great lookin Kick :o How does it run and drive?Was the rear shackel position intentional? Looks like it would ride like hell and have little or no drop :-/

Zig

(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6780.jpg)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2005, 03:26:08 AM
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Was the rear shackel position intentional? Looks like it would ride like hell and have little or no drop :-/

Zig

([url]http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6780.jpg[/url])


They are missing links.
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Bobzooki on March 02, 2005, 04:52:00 AM
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They are missing links.


So, when you FIND the links, are you gonna hook 'em up right?

;D :P
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2005, 05:04:02 AM
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So, when you FIND the links, are you gonna hook 'em up right?

;D :P



You are so FunnAY!  ;)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Zukipilot on March 02, 2005, 05:32:14 AM
ummm,  ok, I'll stick to my IFS and Coils (something I understand) Any close up's of how it travels with the shackle in a streight line with the spring? I know nothing about "missing links" there fore never saw one set up like that. Educate me please.

Zig
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: 1bigtracker on March 02, 2005, 07:03:22 AM
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ummm,  ok, I'll stick to my IFS and Coils (something I understand) Any close up's of how it travels with the shackle in a streight line with the spring? I know nothing about "missing links" there fore never saw one set up like that. Educate me please.

Zig

i know what they are and what they do but explaining is might be hard but here goes.

it lets the rear of the spring(on the black tracker) droop farther(sp?) down  

here is the best pic i can find:
(http://www.rocky-road.com/media/zuklink2.JPG)

hope it makes sence(YEA RIGHT!)

stu


Edit:  folding shackel might be a better awnser
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Zukipilot on March 02, 2005, 07:08:42 AM
That does make sence. What I was wonderinng about is the position of the rear shakle. the line it is in at ride height seem like it would hav a very harsh ride (no side to side swing of the bottom of the shakle while the spring is bending, Just Spring bendage. With a standard leaf set up we had to re mount some that were lined up like that. When we remounted it where the shakel was more out of line with the spring (like the front one on this Kick) it wrode 100% better.

Zig
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Natebert on March 02, 2005, 07:19:31 AM
Zig,
He just upgraded his springs which caused shackle location problems.  Those shackles indeed aren't setup correctly.
(good eyes)

He plans on moving his missing lnks around which will correct the shackle angle because as you stated, any down travel won't swing the shackle any further, but begin to bend at the spring.  (harsh)

~Nate
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: 1bigtracker on March 02, 2005, 08:49:54 AM
ok my turn for ?

1) is he running those new Toyo muds?

2) i under stand hes getting his drive shafts build right now and the one in the pic isn't what he will be running but do you think there will be drive shaft problems?

3)I forgot what axles and T-case he is running?

i think this is a simular set up to what i wanted to do for a rock rig. but i like coils and links ;D


thanks, stu
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2005, 08:59:16 AM
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ok my turn for ?

1) is he running those new Toyo muds?

2) i under stand hes getting his drive shafts build right now and the one in the pic isn't what he will be running but do you think there will be drive shaft problems?

3)I forgot what axles and T-case he is running?

i think this is a simular set up to what i wanted to do for a rock rig. but i like coils and links ;D


thanks, stu


1) Yes 35x13.5x15

2) Don't think so. We'll be picking the truck up today, and we'll get to see a closer look at them.

3) See the first page of this thread.  ;)

;D
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: 1bigtracker on March 02, 2005, 09:47:41 AM
dana 53 rear
dana 44 front
283 under the hood
turbo 350
205 t-case

ok got it for evenything but the Dana 53 rear end ;D(i know it was a spelling error ;)

stu)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: 1bigtracker on March 02, 2005, 10:00:17 AM
for who ever wanted to see a better pic of the steering:
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_5893.jpg)

found it on Heathers site(tons of cool pics, good job Heather & Nate)

stu
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2005, 10:08:41 AM
Some pics of the drivelines..

Front
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6785.jpg)

Rear
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6786.jpg)

Will always recommend these people. Jim's Driveline Service of Boise. They are great!
(http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7skn/BlackZuk/DCP_6789.jpg)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Maiden Hell on March 02, 2005, 10:21:14 AM
Killer pics! Your devotion to these little trucks is nothing short of extraordinary!!

Keep up the great work and pics coming!! :)
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2005, 10:26:39 AM
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dana 53 rear
dana 44 front
283 under the hood
turbo 350
205 t-case

ok got it for evenything but the Dana 53 rear end ;D(i know it was a spelling error ;)

stu)



What, you don't think there's such a thing as a Dana 53?  ???

Here's a website with a J200 and a Dana 53.. this is identical to what he got the axles out of.

http://home.sprintmail.com/~mgtrautoxr/id6.html

;)

EDIT: OK, so I was corrected it's a J3000, and I'll try to find a link to one of those.
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: Natebert on March 02, 2005, 10:37:10 AM
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dana 53 rear
dana 44 front
283 under the hood
turbo 350
205 t-case

ok got it for evenything but the Dana 53 rear end ;D(i know it was a spelling error ;)

stu)


Nope, no spelling error, Dana 53 is a real rear-end.  I think it's a 9.25" ring gear too.
Title: Re: Update on Bowtie Tracker
Post by: hcgalvin on March 02, 2005, 10:37:31 AM
Here's a Pic of a Kaiser/Willys/Jeep J3000

(http://www.jeepbrokers.com/jeep_pic_stevenson.jpg)

Pretty, huh.