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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: TysonS on March 08, 2006, 08:52:54 PM
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Hey,
Could you just put your t case in 4 low and not lock the hubs in for 2wd low? or is this a bad thing to do? Seems alot cheaper then $110.00 for the rocky road 2 wheel low.
Thanks alot
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Thats what I do but when your with a big group it looks like you forgot to lock your hubs in. ::)
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Sweet!!!!!!!!!!
The Monsoon told me about this but I didn't believe him.
Wonder if a new small block'll lift it's front tires?
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it's likely to put more stress on the drivetrain from what I understand but I don't see how it could be any worse on it than the 2wd low kit you can buy.
I am planning on getting manual hubs and I am sure going to do it... If I were you I'd do it but cautiousl for a few tries.. I don't see what can go wrong, I'm sure many people forget to lock thier hubs and do 2wd low on accident
by the way, feerocknok's toyota currently has front wheel drive low.. it's a custom rear driveshaft removal kit that he managed to make work as well as permanantly locked mile marker hubs that we permanantly locked since they were all messed up.. can't say how we did it.... it's a top secret
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The owners manual says never to do it because it wears out the mechanism in the hubs or something. Its been a good few years since I read the handbook. I'll have a look tonight if |I remember.
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Hey,
Could you just put your t case in 4 low and not lock the hubs in for 2wd low? or is this a bad thing to do?  Seems alot cheaper then $110.00 for the rocky road 2 wheel low.
Thanks alot
Good lord... how much cheaper can something be?? Hell a good dinner out costs more than that.. I spend twice that on gas on a long weekend!!
For $110 and a couple hours of easy labor you can shift back and forth between 2 and 4 low without getting out of the cab.. no extra wear and tear on your cv's and axles, and front diff (not that it is much wear and tear...lol, but hey....)
I can't understand how $110 bucks is anything but cheap.... maybe it's just me...
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for a kid going to school and making less then 10$ an hour, paying for insurance and car payments, 110$ is a lot lol.
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How about a twin stick ;D I'm working on the
SYE of coarse, and found that there is a way to
get a twin stick to work, it does require removing
the T-case, as there is a detent ball that locks the
Low gears out until the case has been shifted into
4WD, but the same applies to the 2 wheel low range
kit, it replaces the shift rod with one that has a second
notch that allows the 4wd gear to be put into neutral.
I just need to source the two lever boot for the inside,
Ohh and this eliminates the bending and extending and
poor fit of the T-case levers with a body lift, so now there
is no reason to not want a body lift, unless you just are
opposed to a slightly higher COG and bigger tires ;D
Wild
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How about a twin stick ;D I'm working on the
SYE of coarse, and found that there is a way to
get a twin stick to work, it does require removing
the T-case, as there is a detent ball that locks the
Low gears out until the case has been shifted into
4WD, but the same applies to the 2 wheel low range
kit, it replaces the shift rod with one that has a second
notch that allows the 4wd gear to be put into neutral.
I just need to source the two lever boot for the inside,
Ohh and this eliminates the bending and extending and
poor fit of the T-case levers with a body lift, so now there
is no reason to not want a body lift, unless you just are
opposed to a slightly higher COG and bigger tires  ;D
Wild
Man, you are always working on all the cool #*^$!! :D
A twin stick would be rocking..
and as much as I bitch about body lifts.. I think I might have to get mine up just a tad after all.. and eat a lot crow....LOL... either that or just cut the fenders and quarters all the way off...... :D
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How about a twin stick ;D I'm working on the
SYE of coarse, and found that there is a way to
get a twin stick to work, it does require removing
the T-case, as there is a detent ball that locks the
Low gears out until the case has been shifted into
4WD, but the same applies to the 2 wheel low range
kit, it replaces the shift rod with one that has a second
notch that allows the 4wd gear to be put into neutral.
I just need to source the two lever boot for the inside,
Ohh and this eliminates the bending and extending and
poor fit of the T-case levers with a body lift, so now there
is no reason to not want a body lift, unless you just are
opposed to a slightly higher COG and bigger tires  ;D
Wild
Man, you are always working on all the cool #*^$!!  :D
A twin stick would be rocking.. ÂÂ
and as much as I bitch about body lifts.. I think I might have to get mine up just a tad after all.. and eat a lot crow....LOL... either that or just cut the fenders and quarters all the way off...... :D
HA HA That's funny...Sky's 2" lift works good,and easy to put on...If you got the mounts....
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That's alright, on a recent trail ride with a decent-sized group, I was running the Goblin in 2lo and did everything the other rigs did until I got to a short steep climb. I couldn't make it up. It was then that I discovered the right front hub was stuck in the free position and hadn't locked. I had done the entire ride to that point in 2lo 2wd and never noticed anything wrong, even crawling through the rock garden and easily keeping up with all the other rigs in the group! A few smacks with a big hammer knocked the mechanism loose and it locked in, then I rebuilt the hub later...
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sure the kit seems better and so does the twin stick thing.. well, they are better. but with manual hubs, you are just turning the front axle shaft inside of the hub if it's unlocked.. I don't see what it would hurt.. I don't know. seems fine to me, but there is definately a chance that I am wrong. don't know how good of a chance it is either.. no idea
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I just wanna have my small block lift it's front end!
Wheelies!!!!!!!!!!
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how about this
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i have a kick azz twin stick ( dual shifter) all ready avalible. it wasnt advertised on the board much because i didnt want to wizz somebody off ,who was doing the same thing . there workin awsome !!! it is a true twin/ 2 levers / positive shifts hi/lo 2/4 wd stan
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Ya, I heard from Hutch earlyer today that you already built one
I'd like to see what you did, if you don't mind, E-mail or PM me
Wild
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I tried it out!!!!!!!
It was my first time, so I was pretty excited.
Setting: At my high school, during lunch.
First, I did the whole 4Lo then unlock the hubs. Then I went forward 20 feet, then back, and my brakes didn't like me.
Then I punched it and put up a smoke cloud. My friend stopped me after a few seconds cause the hall monitor guy was walking towards me. He told me to take it somewhere else.
I did, and smoke cloud, and then another, and another, and another.
This was followed by smoking out the street.
I'm not real sure what the use of this is when offroading though.
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2 wheel low, off road, would be great for several situations..
if you like to jump... jumping breaks stuff quick when in 4wd.. :D
if you are locked in the front, it is great to be able to run in low range, unlocked for manueverability
donuts... (JK)
even if you aren't locked in front, manueverabiltiy is better in 2wd... lots of times..
I want true twin stick.. selectable diffs F/R with 4 wheel steering, and 4 wheel selectable line lock... active hydraulic suspention with power up/down would be nice too... crap.. I am dreaming again...
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I gotta try me some Lo donuts.
Will the twin stick give front wheel drive? Seems like it'd be nice when something goes out on the back end.
Lol, it seems like Suzuki guys are the only guys that have to jump their rigs.
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you need a rear disconnect,how about this ,i found this on pirate 4x4
? will a track/kick t-case shifter fit in a sami t-case?
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i have a kick azz twin stick ( dual shifter) all ready avalible. it wasnt advertised on the board much because i didnt want to wizz somebody off ,who was doing the same thing .  there workin awsome !!! it is a true twin/ 2 levers / positive shifts hi/lo  2/4 wd  stan
Hey I thought Zig was gonna do a write up on this?????? Im still planning on buying it from you as soon as things calm down a bit....
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Sammy T-case and Track/Kick T-case
are two different critters, sorry.
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While the twin stick sounds awesome, I think just the rear disconnect'd be real nice.
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i have a kick azz twin stick ( dual shifter) all ready avalible. it wasnt advertised on the board much because i didnt want to wizz somebody off ,who was doing the same thing .  there workin awsome !!! it is a true twin/ 2 levers / positive shifts hi/lo  2/4 wd  stan
Hey I thought Zig was gonna do a write up on this?????? Im still planning on buying it from you as soon as things calm down a bit....
he was going to don't know what happend ??? stan]
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Owner's handbook says:
Do not use the vehicle in 4H or 4L with the manual freewheeling hubs in the FREE positionDoesn't say why not though ???
2wd low is useful if you are on a hard surfcae and want plenty of drive for uphill/engine braking for downhill and can't use 4wd due to transmission windup.
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i have a kick azz twin stick ( dual shifter) all ready avalible. it wasnt advertised on the board much because i didnt want to wizz somebody off ,who was doing the same thing .  there workin awsome !!! it is a true twin/ 2 levers / positive shifts hi/lo  2/4 wd  stan
Hey I thought Zig was gonna do a write up on this?????? Im still planning on buying it from you as soon as things calm down a bit....
he was going to don't know what happend ??? stan]
I WAS going to untill I moved to Florida. Now I'm working 60-80 hrs a week, have no shop, and live in an area that it is actually illegal to work on your rig in the driveway (damn snooty rich people >:( ) I did have the guys that put my transmission in, install the shifters while they had it out. BUT they did not take the ball out that allows them to work seperately ::) .
I am attempting to find somewhere that will let me rent space to do work on the ride. The "storage buildings" said they wont let you store vehicles and work on them in their units :(
Sorry,
Zig
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[Doesn't say why not though]
Back in the dark ages, when I was starting 4-wheeling, someone told me not to run in 4 low with the front hubs disengaged because it was possible to overstress the rear drivetrain if you got on it too hard. That makes sense to me. Doesn't explain why it would be a problem in 4 high, tho.