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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: trialspro on March 15, 2006, 09:48:20 PM
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just wondering if a lwb samurai body would mount to a lwb sj410 frame... im planning on swapping a fairly clean body onto mine
also, any tips for when/if i swap it? the wiring i think will be hardest
thanks, Andrew
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Based on what I know about the swb 410s than I would guess that if its a pre 85 410 then No, later 410 maybe. Ask on the difflock.com forum, there are a fair few LWBs in the UK
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thanks, but you're saying an 84 sj410 SWB would not fit on a SWB samurai frame?
im sure if that wont then a LWB wont
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thanks, but you're saying an 84 sj410 SWB would not fit on a SWB samurai frame?
im sure if that wont then a LWB wont
The body panels pretty much look to be interchangeable but the body/chassis mounts aren't quite in the same places. Also the early 410 chassis rails are lower in the centre and the tcase and gear lever holes are in different places. The transmission tunnel is supposed to be smaller on the early 410 too but I haven't directly compared the two. A few years ago I bought a body that was supposed to fit any swb SJ 1983 on, I bought an 84 swb as a donor and found out all this the hard way.
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I installed a 1984 SJ410 body on a 1990 frame last year. The front mounts under the headlights and the rear mounts under the tailgate were the same and the six body mounts in the middle were off about an inch or two. I installed a 2" body lift at the same time (so the shorter SJ410 hood cleared the radiator) and was able to use the 2" square tube blocks and drill them out at two different locations (offset) so it would bolt together properly. In this swap I cut out the steel dash and cut the firewall for the 1990 brake booster (the SJ410 had no brake booster). ALso, the shifter hole has to be widened out a tiny bit....just a little. It was a little more work, but not that much harder than a typical body swap.
.....so yes it will fit with a little extra work.
Sean
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I installed a 1984 SJ410 body on a 1990 frame last year. The front mounts under the headlights and the rear mounts under the tailgate were the same and the six body mounts in the middle were off about an inch or two. I installed a 2" body lift at the same time (so the shorter SJ410 hood cleared the radiator) and was able to use the 2" square tube blocks and drill them out at two different locations (offset) so it would bolt together properly. In this swap I cut out the steel dash and cut the firewall for the 1990 brake booster (the SJ410 had no brake booster). ALso, the shifter hole has to be widened out a tiny bit....just a little. It was a little more work, but not that much harder than a typical body swap.
.....so yes it will fit with a little extra work.
Sean
I found that the height of the rear centre mounts was also different. Did you add spacers?
When you say the 1990 booster do you mean SJ413/Samurai. Over here later Spanish built 410s had boosters but I found that not only were the fixing holes different but the studs were on the other part (firewall/booster, can't remember which was which)
Here are some pics I took at the time of my body and the frame showing the mountings
Crossmember in front of rear axle, IIRC the front outrigger is the correct height but the hole is again a little off:
(http://www.rhinoman.org/images/images/blitz05a.jpg)
Centre section, if you look at a sammy you will see that it is straighter and therefore higher
(http://www.rhinoman.org/images/images/blitz05b.jpg)