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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Suzuki1.8 on February 16, 2005, 04:58:03 AM
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Alright here I go this will porberly be the last post i get to do before you guys kick me off for such a crazy idea. I saw not to long back a 2 inch lowering kit for a sidekick from calmini. I know it was for a a 4dr or 2dr sidekick but not a sport model. First off i can't find it any where on there web site now. Second I thought if i bought it and also purchased the lower ball joints off a standerd sidekick i could bolt them up and porblem solved about the non removable ball joint the sport has. Any body know who still has the kit availble. Another problem araising from this build up is i found a place to make a exhaust manifold to house a turbo on my 1.8 only problem now is i can't find different compression ratio pistions or for that part anything other then stock parts for the internals of the engine. Any hints or ideas were to look would be helpful. :)
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Try calling Calmini. Just because they don't list it doesn't mean they don't have any laying around.
Will it work? I don't know.
Will we kick you off the site? No way!!!!
Cwkick
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Ditto on calling for the drop.
For engine internals try this site.
8) http://www.importperformanceparts.net/ 8)
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lowering...lowering...lowering,Ok, I think I can pronounce it now, but I still don't understand it. Never heard of that word..... ;)
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Well i found a place that has the kit for 399 dollars and its not garunteed to worked. I also found just a set of coil springs that would lower it. Do you fellow zuks think its worth it to try and modify the a arm from calmini to fit or just go the 250 dollar way with springs? Oh and thank you roach for the web site, the first to offer kits for my engine.
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As many Kicks/Trackers/Sammi's Hawk has they may have a lowered one that they are parting out. Give them a call 1-888-SAMURAI. Wont hurt to try.
Zig
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Lowering? Growing up we called it Pond Scumming... try using it in a sentence, it sounds more appropriate than the word lowering... ;D
Edit: You could also do like a lowrider would and heat up the coils while on a jack and drop it down to the desired ride height...This way should you ever want to reverse the drop all you replace is the coils.
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need more info? ???
What are you going for, as far as dropping your rig?
looks, speed, or are you going to throw some switches in there? The more information the easier it would be to steer you in the right direction ;)
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I'm going more for looks and speed. I plan on dropping it two inchs and putting 18s on. I already have intake, custom exhaust and centerforce clutch and a chip. that is all i could find to put on it. I searched hi and low for a header. Calmini is starting to hate me I keep emailing them about stuff they don't have anymore or make. I'm proberly on there spam list ha ha. I also want to install a turbo. The only reason i just don't want to buy springs and install is because of alingment. I hear the calmini kit offers a way to alingen them. They informed me the kit has been discontinued for two years now. SO the place that list them might not even have them in stock. I'm still awaiting to hear back on the in stock part.
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I can tell you that the arms will fit because I fit their 3" up kit onto my Sport, but I don't think that the alignment will be correct. I still needed camber bolts to correct the alignment on my Escudo. The arm length is probably different between a Sport and a 1.6L.
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I can tell you that the arms will fit because I fit their 3" up kit onto my Sport, but I don't think that the alignment will be correct. I still needed camber bolts to correct the alignment on my Escudo. The arm length is probably different between a Sport and a 1.6L.
what did you do for the ball joints? Because the ball joints on the sport are fixed to the lower arm
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Talked to a couple of my speed bump hating friends.
The best option they could come up with,
1. Beer for the headaches :)
2.Have a local fab shop make you some tubular control arms( takes care of your ball joints and alignment) and then taking some specs and ordering some coilovers that need least amount of work. all in all your going to need lots of beer ;D.
The only reason I stated the coil overs is everbody there was in agreement that the stock struts and shocks on any car suck after you lower it.
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ok seeing how I already lowered my tracker 4 inches i can tell u to go to thetirerack.com thats where i bought my H&R lowering springs from and the Koni rear sport shocks the springs dropped it 2 inches after they set in a year then i bought low profile tires which dropped it another 2 inches if u have the money justbagit.com sells complete air ride systems for around $2000
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ok seeing how I already lowered my tracker 4 inches i can tell u to go to thetirerack.com thats where i bought my H&R lowering springs from and the Koni rear sport shocks the springs dropped it 2 inches after they set in a year then i bought low profile tires which dropped it another 2 inches if u have the money justbagit.com sells complete air ride systems for around $2000
How did you get it to align correctly after you just put the springs in? The air ride sounds good but then on thats almost half the cost of my car, with tires i would have the same amount in my car as supension and tires. I like the way you car sits that is perfect. How is the ride now?
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How to lower a Zuk...air down the tires to 15 psi before hittin' the trail. That'll do it ;)
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what did you do for the ball joints? Because the ball joints on the sport are fixed to the lower arm
I used a set of ball joints from a 1.6L. They fit too..
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How did you get it to align correctly after you just put the springs in? The air ride sounds good but then on thats almost half the cost of my car, with tires i would have the same amount in my car as supension and tires. I like the way you car sits that is perfect. How is the ride now?
well after i put the springs in i took it to a local shop and had it aligned. the ride now compared to stock is like night and day much better handles like a small sports car
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thats almost half the cost of my car, with tires i would have the same amount in my car as supension and tires.
Now you're getting the idea!
Cost of my Kick: Just under $3,000
Cost of my mods: Over $10,000
Still WAY less than I would have paid for a J**p with similar capabilities!
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Cost of my Kick:  Just under $3,000
Cost of my mods:  Over $10,000
I guess I got off a little cheaper ;)
Drop it
or
Jack it Up
Any Zuki is fine in my book ;D
But I prefer them up.
easier on the speed bumps ;D
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don't heat the springs . if you want a cheap way out just remove the springs and cut off desired amount and then reinstall them .don't forget that 2 inches of spring will lower the vehicle almost twice that amount . the control arms will be more horizontal to the ground making more leverage on the suspension for a softer ride than stock even though the spring rate has been altered . take it to the alignment shop and you shouldn't have any problems . ;)
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I just cut the springs for my parts chaser! ;D ;D ;D
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I found a lowering kit from skunk2 that will just replace springs and then i'll take it to a alignment shop and get it aligned. thank you for all the helpful advice
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What will you do about the camber? The alignment shop can fix the toe in and out, but there is no way to adjust the camber, or is it less of a concern when dropping a Kick?
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Camber bolts will help eliminate any camber issues.
Cwkick
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Camber bolts will help eliminate any camber issues.
Cwkick
Yeah i spoke with les schawb and they said camber bolts since it not i huge change in geomerty of the suspension. The front axle housing stays in the same place and it doesn't put any werid angle on the cv shafts. basicly like i think someone mentioned before the springs will only be 1 inch shorter then stock but will give a 2inch drop when compressed.
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so i got bored and made a image i'm going to have made into some stickers what you think?(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/suzuki1.jpg)
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Looks good and the camber pins are the ticket. I put them in mine and it fixed the camber nicely ;D