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Title: manual hub question
Post by: steven_c on February 17, 2005, 02:05:28 PM
i have a 95 tracker with the auto hubs, what is involved in switching to manual hubs?

thanks
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: wildgoody on February 17, 2005, 02:45:52 PM
unbolting the autos and bolting on the manuals
simple and sweet
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: Whipped on February 17, 2005, 10:23:45 PM
Try this article: http://www.zukiworld.com/month_030104/feature_tsb_shiftontheflyremoval.htm for any additional knowledge & help.

~CZ
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: the_maplebar on February 18, 2005, 04:04:49 AM
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Try this article: [url]http://www.zukiworld.com/month_030104/feature_tsb_shiftontheflyremoval.htm[/url] for any additional knowledge & help.

~CZ



Of course this article explains how to do a lot more than just  installing manual hubs.  It is also replacing the 3rd members to change your gearing and swapping axles in the front so you can run a locker.  If all you want to do is install manual lockout hubs you should be able to buy a pair from

[link]www.puresuzuki.com/Locking%20Hubs.htm[/link]
or
[link]www.rocky-road.com/kickdrive.html[/link]

and I am sure other vendors have them available too.


Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: Bobzooki on February 18, 2005, 04:10:43 AM
I think I just got my Warn Premium Hubs at 4-wheel Parts Warehouse - about $95, if I recall correctly.

but

Once you switch to the Warn Premium Hubs, the bolts WILL back out on a regular basis (the theory is that it's because the Warn Premium Hubs do not use the cone washers that are on the stock hubs).

You will ALSO want to install the Spidertrax super Hub Bolt kit.  Yes, it requires drilling, and tapping, BUT they also include the correct drill bits AND the correct tap in the kit.

http://www.spidertrax.com/drivetrain_shb.htm

It's $30 well spent!
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: the_maplebar on February 18, 2005, 08:03:32 AM
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Once you switch to the Warn Premium Hubs, the bolts WILL back out on a regular basis (the theory is that it's because the Warn Premium Hubs do not use the cone washers that are on the stock hubs).

You will ALSO want to install the Spidertrax super Hub Bolt kit.  Yes, it requires drilling, and tapping, BUT they also include the correct drill bits AND the correct tap in the kit.

[url]http://www.spidertrax.com/drivetrain_shb.htm[/url]

It's $30 well spent!


Does the Super Hub Bolt kit take care of the bolts backing out?  That seems slightly annoying.   Also I would think that your front CV's (assuming they are stock and lifted) would be going out before a hub bolt.  Are they really a weak link that needs to be upgraded?
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: the_maplebar on February 18, 2005, 08:04:54 AM
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Once you switch to the Warn Premium Hubs, the bolts WILL back out on a regular basis (the theory is that it's because the Warn Premium Hubs do not use the cone washers that are on the stock hubs).


And does anyone know if the Superwinch hubs have this same problem?
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: jagular7 on February 18, 2005, 11:42:19 AM
I'm using the Superwinches on my XL7 and don't have a problem at all with them.
One benefit with SW is that they are warrantied for life of owner/vehicle. Break one, bring it back with the other, get 2 new ones.  Simple enough.

I suggest you keep the stock drive flanges in the vehicle for trail repair when you do actually do need to replace a broken lockout.

I've also got some comparison pics in my webshots on both Warn and SW lockouts. Take a look.
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: HotRod on February 18, 2005, 04:24:02 PM
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And does anyone know if the Superwinch hubs have this same problem?

I have them on my 95 Kick and no problems ;D
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: zukicon on February 18, 2005, 09:49:01 PM
i have two pair of  manuals i'll trade one pair for the
automatics.all 4 have tapered cones [ just use loctite on the bolts]
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: LBC4x4 on February 20, 2005, 03:51:36 AM
I don't know about the superwinch hubs but my warn hubs do back out and I have keep an eye on it. The first time i noteised the problem my hub was about to fall off due to the fact that I had already lost 3 bolts and the rest were loose :( :(
Title: Re: manual hub question
Post by: LBC4x4 on February 20, 2005, 03:53:05 AM
I would also like to know if the spidertrax kit fixes this problem because $30 to fix this annoyance would be well worth it.