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Title: what engine oil
Post by: transalp on April 17, 2006, 09:54:37 AM
should i use in my zook (1,6 8v) mineral or synthetic??  only the best is gooood enough for my precious   :D
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: reb on April 17, 2006, 11:41:31 AM
This is a hot button topic with some people.  My opinion is that any economic benefit is questionable in changing to synthetic on a relatively high mileage engine.  Since I have had no engine problems using good quality mineral oil in every vehicle I have owned, I personally cannot justify the cost of the synthetic.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: pcguy on April 17, 2006, 12:21:51 PM
I use mobil 1 synthetic in all my vehicles, It costs the same for me to do the oil change with synthetic, as it would to have someone else change it with regular oil. Thats the justification I give my self. Also it helps me feel better about longer drain intervals, since I might drive my offroader 3000 miles in an entire year :)
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: transalp on April 17, 2006, 12:46:27 PM
Well i´m doing the work myself and mobil 1 isn´t that expensive so i guess i´ll go with that.

Thank you/ Mike
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Quaddawg on April 17, 2006, 07:24:02 PM
It took me a LONG time to switch to synthetic.. but what sold me was when I bought a used Town car with 165K on the clock..  it had synthetic from new, and I had proof with all oil change receipts........  so I just kept up the same brand and type, Mobil 1..

I took the heads off at 190K and the damned thing was brand new inside... it was amazing..

I had another Town car, with the same engine (4.6) with 125K, on normal oil, but still regular changes... it was OK when I pulled it apart for a head gasket leak...... but not nearly as nice as the one with 190K...

since that day.. I use synthetic in EVERYTHING.. I mean, it really isn't very much more per year. I mean, when a tank of gas cost over $60.00... a $20 dollar bill more for synthetic oil isn't an issue...
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: beerman on April 17, 2006, 07:39:35 PM
i'm switching to valvoline synthetic 5-40 or somthing, don't remember what i bought.

i will not use regular oil anymore.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: strvger on April 17, 2006, 09:44:28 PM
hi,  i'll be using the Quaker State 4X4 semi-synthetic (10W40) here in the northern Minnesota summer and go same stuff 5W30 in the winter.  have used that oil for years in all my vehicles up here with no problems.  my tracker has 115k on it and getting over 30mpg (1.6 8v 5-speed).  just had both axles, tranny, and transfer case fluids changed over to Amsoil.  just got this tracker recently and have used Amsoil for a number of years with no complaints/problems at all.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Yoak on April 17, 2006, 10:00:48 PM
I am running a blend of both which works really well for my usage,

mine also sets alot, last two year I have put less than 5K on it...
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Jayzuki on April 18, 2006, 02:20:02 AM
I had a 1991 Sidekick 2-door 5spd 1.6L 8V. The previous owners brother was an Amsoil dealer so the only thing that wasnt Amsoil with this Kick was the powersteering fluid!! The guy said that he changed every fluid in it to Amsoil synthetic within the last  5 months. I believed him because he had a few spare liters for the engine. Right after purchasing it I switched to regular 10w-40 oil because I discovered it was using oil and I wasnt going to pay the price of synthetic for nothing, but anyways. I also had a 1989 Mazda B2600i 4x4 pickup that I changed over to synthetic. I put Redline synthetic t-case, trans, and diff oil in it but had regular oil in the engine. A few weeks after changing over and working the oil into the transmisson and diffs ETC there was a huge improvement in shifting performance and smoothness. Out of the 9 vehicles I ve had the one's that had syntehtic were by far the best performing, nicest to shift and smoothest running. I recommend running REDLINE synthetic drivetrain lubricant for all 4x4 vehicles but not in the engine itself unless its new or newer. I like Quaker state 4x4 semi-synthetic engine oil and recommend it for motors. :-\


Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: KevinN on April 18, 2006, 07:51:39 AM
I leak about a quart a month so I don't even drain the oil....just replace the filter twice a year.  8) This has been going on for about 3 years now, even before I owned it. Maybe it's time to replace that seal?
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Mythose on April 18, 2006, 12:09:36 PM
LOL
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Quaddawg on April 18, 2006, 12:14:17 PM
I leak about a quart a month so I don't even drain the oil....just replace the filter twice a year.  8) This has been going on for about 3 years now, even before I owned it. Maybe it's time to replace that seal?

Trouble is, if it isn't leaking from the very lowest point, you are leaving lots of smaller than filter size contaminants, including less viscous hydrocarbons in your oil pan, diluting the oil you are pumping through your engine.


As far as burning synthetic oil.. yes, I have experienced that too.....  I agree with the blend for engines such as these.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: crikeymike on April 18, 2006, 02:04:50 PM
I use Mazzola 0W-1 oil in mine.  Nice and thin...  lets me identify where all the leaks are.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: 95XL7 on April 18, 2006, 03:45:17 PM
 :) Mobil synthetic 5W30 in the V-6, year round.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: AJMBLAZER on April 18, 2006, 03:45:44 PM
I run Mobil 1 synth 5w30 year round in the GV and change it every 3k.

On my Ranger and Tracker I run Valvoline high mileage 5w30.  Both have over 150k on the clock and I just don't want to deal with leaks.  Neither leave spots now but there's oil on the bottoms of the engine.
I had a '93 Tracker a few years ago that I switched to Mobil 1 synthetic on.  WHOOPS!  The couple spots of oil it might leave now and then turned into BIG spots of oil and I was adding over a quart every other week or so.  Synthetic can act as a detergent and because of it's slick synthetic nature it can clean crap out of high mileage engines and then get through the leaks they were sorta sealing.  I understand the performance benefits but after that little debacle I keep the synth for the newer (less leak prone) stuff. :P
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Tracker_Camps96 on April 18, 2006, 09:33:33 PM
Currently I run AMS Oil 10w30 in my Tracker.   I just like it because it got most of the highest ratings compared to other oils, Mobil 1 came 2nd most of the time.   I baby my Tracker.   Theres one thing though.   With synthetic, I have heard it many times on many of these mechanic radio shows me and my dad listen to, you dont want to switch to synthetic after around 40K miles.   I did it at 35K.   After that it is not supposed to have any real benefit to your engine and you just waste money.   Before that, it can help your engine run longer.   If your over 40 K (Im guessing most likely), I wouldnt do it.
Title: Re: what engine oil
Post by: Shilly on April 19, 2006, 11:06:07 AM
I use Wal-Mart full synthetic in my '91 with 163K miles because I put a lot of miles on it due to a long (84 mile) round trip commute to work. I changed the oil every 3K when I was running conventional oil, but upped it to 5K when i went to synthetic. In addition, I also uses a larger filter (Wal-Mart ST3400<?>) that also fits a 2000 Taurus V-6 3.0. It provides more filter media and fits perfectly. I've not noticed any increase in oil consumption, but it's always burned a little (maybe 1 qt every 2500 or so).  I've asked about the difference between Wal-Mart brand and M1, and the consensus was that M1 has a better additive package, but with a 5K OCI it doesn't really make a lot of difference.  After running WM synthetic for over 10K miles I'm very happy and will continue to use WM oil and filters.  At $12.xx for a 5 qt jug and another $2.50 or so for the filter I thinks it's a great value.