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Title: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 03:24:42 PM
Okay all - I have a watter leak at the back of my engine between head and block (Stock Samurai 1.3L). I can't tell EXACTLY where it is, as the leak is covered up by the intake manifold. It's definately comming from passenger side back (closest to the firewall). There seems to be no watter in the oil (it looks pretty, no muddy brown color), no oil in the watter, and no smoke / steam comming out of exhaust.

I presume this is a head gasket issue (never changed one out before). Should I take the head to a shop to see if it needs to be re-worked from warpage?

I also don't have a manual, so.... how to I torque the head down properly? Will I need a torq wrench, or should I just make shure they are torqued down consistently?

All thoughts are appreciated!

~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: takai on May 12, 2006, 03:28:53 PM
You could be right about the head gasket leak. And you will definitely need a torque wrench. You don't want to just wing it when torquing down your the head.

I am sure that some here probably has the pattern and torque specs.  We have at least one or two people that work on Zuksaround here.  ;D
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Yoak on May 12, 2006, 03:31:10 PM
I would place my vote on the head gasket...
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 03:52:38 PM
*edit*

Okay, so much for my el-cheapo "re-tighten the head" fix - those bolts are SOLID. Might need a breaker bar to get them undone...

So, looks like I'm spending $70ish for a new head gasked from Napa, and finding a friend with a torq wrench :)

Anyone have the torq pattern, and torq specs handy?

~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: wildgoody on May 12, 2006, 03:55:45 PM
What engine? if it's a 16V it might be the heater
hose or the gasket at the base of the housing
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 03:58:49 PM
What engine? if it's a 16V it might be the heater
hose or the gasket at the base of the housing


By 16v I presume you mean the Trackick 1.6L?  I have the stocker 1.3L.



~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: wildgoody on May 12, 2006, 04:00:40 PM
Actually I was wondering what you have
SideKick or Sammy and the year
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Carnage on May 12, 2006, 04:03:10 PM
http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1d/f2/2b/0900823d801df22b.jsp
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 04:21:33 PM
Actually I was wondering what you have
SideKick or Sammy and the year

Ah - sorry.... should have included that *smacks forehead*

88 Sami with the stock 1.3L


~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 04:22:50 PM
[url]http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1d/f2/2b/0900823d801df22b.jsp[/url]


Brilliant! Thank you!

~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: wildgoody on May 12, 2006, 04:27:11 PM
Change your heater hoses  ;)

You would have to remove them to do the
head anyway, so start there and tell us what
you find out

Wild
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Carnage on May 12, 2006, 04:32:52 PM
[url]http://www.autozone.com/servlet/UiBroker?ForwardPage=/az/cds/en_us/0900823d/80/1d/f2/2b/0900823d801df22b.jsp[/url]

Brilliant! Thank you!

~J~



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Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 04:45:13 PM
Change your heater hoses  ;)

This brings up a good point... what else should I replace while I'm in there? I'll inspect the spark plugs, replace the radiator hose (should I do upper and lower?), change the oil / filter, inspect the needle and radiator cap, change air filter (it's dirty).

I don't know that I should really replace much else. This Samurai is in EMACULATE condition in the interior (the front and back seats are in great condition, the carpet is pristine, and the rubber on the pedals looks brand-new). She starts up EASY each and every time. Indicated mileage is 63k, and im inclined to believe this thing is in too good of shape to think it's 163k.... but... hard to say hu? Anyway - if you were me, what else would you condider changing out?

~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 12, 2006, 07:45:15 PM
Okay - one more cheap bastard approach....

What's your thoughts on stopleak? Anyone ever tried it?

~J~
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: CodeBlue on May 12, 2006, 08:12:55 PM
check underneath the intake manifold there is a coolant line under there  (was on my 1.6 8valve) figure there should be one on sammy also. mine cracked and leaked all over the place. its a tight fit  and you might not be able to see it so feel for it
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Carnage on May 12, 2006, 08:14:10 PM

yes, I am a cheap bastard and I endorse stop leak

(worked for my minor water leak)



 
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Yoak on May 12, 2006, 08:27:49 PM
I used that on my datsun....made a mess....but the headgasket was pretty bad....

I would try stopleak first
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: takai on May 12, 2006, 10:06:03 PM
Okay - one more cheap bastard approach....

What's your thoughts on stopleak? Anyone ever tried it?

~J~

Fix it right the first time. Stop leak would be a decent trail fix but, an egg is cheaper.  ;D
Title: Re: Overheating
Post by: Jeremiah on May 15, 2006, 05:27:02 PM
check underneath the intake manifold there is a coolant line under there  (was on my 1.6 8valve) figure there should be one on sammy also. mine cracked and leaked all over the place. its a tight fit  and you might not be able to see it so feel for it

I'll be damned - this is EXACTLY what broke...  $1.03 and 20min shure beat $90 and a weekend's worth of work!!!


Thanks!!!

~J~