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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Black_Serge on February 08, 2005, 01:24:22 AM
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Does anybody know if front and rear diffs are same on vitara (sidekick) 1.6 100hp and if it is possible to install
"lock right"
(see here
http://www.puresuzuki.com/lockright.htm) into front diff not rear?
I drive a lot on-road and afraid that auto-locking on rear diff will kill tyres (and diff or itself?) too fast. Moreover front tyres are better loaded with weight so I think it is more important to lock front axle.
I have some doubts how IFS will handle it but I have only :-) 31" BF Goodrich, not 33 Super Swampers so it should be all right.
If anybody has this or similiar lock in front please give some clues.
Or alternatively give some reviews how it behaves on-road being installed into rear.
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You can install a locker in the front diff but it is not a direct bolt in. (but is an easy inbstall) You need a Machined Sami carrier to install in your Kick housing and a retainor sellve. Give Hawk Strictly Suzuki a Call. Thay have everything you need. 1-888-samurai
Zig
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The on road behaviour is not bad with a rear locker. It does take a little getting use to but drives fine once you learn your new driving technique.
Zig
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You can install a locker in the front diff but it is not a direct bolt in. (but is an easy inbstall) You need a Machined Sami carrier to install in your Kick housing and a retainor sellve. Give Hawk Strictly Suzuki a Call. Thay have everything you need. 1-888-samurai
Zig
Well, I can call them from Russia but the problem is payment and delivery. For now I have a channel to buy from Calmini, already got several items from there, so if you can please give some advices what should be done.
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You can install a locker in the front diff but it is not a direct bolt in. (but is an easy inbstall) You need a Machined Sami carrier to install in your Kick housing and a retainor sellve. Give Hawk Strictly Suzuki a Call. Thay have everything you need. 1-888-samurai
Zig
what is a machiened sammy carrier? i just used a sammy carrier and a retaining sleve and yes it is a easy install,trailtough also has them,$$$ well spent,you wont have to drive it near as hard with lockers
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Well, I can call them from Russia but the problem is payment and delivery. For now I have a channel to buy from Calmini, already got several items from there, so if you can please give some advices what should be done.
Calmini and Hawk work together on some purchases, Calmini told me about Hawk when I was doing my front locker. Tell Steve or whomever you are dealing with what you are wanting to do. I'm sure that they can get what you need from Hawk.
Zig
Zig
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what is a machiened sammy carrier? i just used a sammy carrier and a retaining sleve and yes it is a easy install,trailtough also has them,$$$ well spent,you wont have to drive it near as hard with lockers
I assuming that you did this in a Sami and/ or Anvil type Kick housing. The Sami Carrier has to be machined to clear the size of the Passenger side 1/2 shaft that inserts into the diff housing.
Zig
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Hmm, this is an interesting question.
My case is a bit different, because I have ARB's front & rear, BUT - when things start getting "interesting", I turn on the rear locker. The rear...everything is stronger, so less likely to break something.
When things get REALLY interesting, I turn on the front locker, too, but only long enough to get over the worst part of the obstacle. Turning with the front locker on is a real challenge! Turning with the rear locker on is a LITTLE bit tougher, some times, but I can leave the rear on most of the time.
Just something to consider. I don't know if these conditions are the same with a lock-right, or not, so take it with a grain of salt.
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An LSD for the front and a lock rite for the rear would be a good cheap way to guy. Or you can get the air compressor and lines for an ARB ;D :D
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Agree with Adamd.
I have run a lock right (rear) for 18 months now they are excellent.
Was thinking of leaving the drivetrain as was until a pair of ARBs came along.....
Cheers
Nick
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http://www.zukiworld.com/month_020103/feature_frontendupgradeswithhagen.htm
;)
stu
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Kinda getting off Post Topic but, considering Fr & Rr ARB's as well, how do you boys like em, an awesome offroader and a great daily driver are important to me. Reason, I have two kids that are just starting to drive so I don't want something for them to use that is difficult to control on the street. They have to supply their own fuel so they won't be asking to use my crewcab very often.
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http://www.zukiworld.com/month_090103/feature_sidekickdrivetrainimprovements.htm
Here is another article too..
Boy I wish there was a better way to find these great articles hidden in the Archive....
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Kinda getting off Post Topic but, considering Fr & Rr ARB's as well, how do you boys like em, an awesome offroader and a great daily driver are important to me.
Well, if you have the money it's hard not to go wrong with a couple of ARB's. ;D
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the front is considerable weeker than the rear and when u lock the front it is vey difficult to steer when in 4 wheel operation. that is why most people use ARB's in the front. when i tight turn comes up u unlock it and take the turnplus it reduces the possibility of breaking things. the ARB operates the same as the stock equipment when not ingaged. a rear locker-rite will try to turn ur vehicle in the opposit direction of what ever tire locks first it takes a little getting used to and from my experance tire wear can be eccesive with a rear locker-rite but if u lay off the gas in sharp turn you can can save ur tires and alot of scary incounters.
all of the onroand driving problems with a lock-rite are increased with a standard, an atumatic hids alot of it and reduces tire wear.
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all of the onroand driving problems with a lock-rite are increased with a standard, an atumatic hids alot of it and reduces tire wear.
Sorry, I didnt get last your point. Can you explain more please? What do you mean by "standard"?
Thanks for advices.
I asked for opinions around here as well and it seems nobody recommends to install l-r into front. So ok, lets install it into rear ;)
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all of the onroand driving problems with a lock-rite are increased with a standard, an atumatic hids alot of it and reduces tire wear.
I think what he is saying is an Auto tracker is a lot easier on the tire wear than a manual when a rear locrite is fitted.
I have a rear locrite and I did wear my cheap tyres a little not to bad thou, since i have been on better tyres 33" MTR wranglers they havant worn and i power it through roundabouts in the dry and the locrite clicks over as it should, Now and again it catches you out but its like driving a high powered rear wheel drive car without traction control!
In the wet i do take it easy as the slip tends to change from the locrite clicking over to the tyres slipping which ever force is less.
Off road you cant fault them.( unless you are picky like me)