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Title: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Mat Tracker on February 07, 2005, 06:31:28 AM
Hi I'm a new guy and am very interested in your vehicles. You can read my whole post including the rambling section but please take a look at my question section because you guys are the experts!

RamblingMy name is Mat and I come from Montreal, Quebec.

Me and my wife recently bought and house so we're a bit tight on "project cash". I do most of my mechanical stuff myself. I'm not an expert but I sure do like learning about it!

I don't do any offroading... yet, but I've dabbled and loved it. Were not planning on doing any serious off-roading but we'd like to be able to be "independant" and out in nature, camping and hiking.

No I don't have a Tracker yet but I want to buy one this spring. Here's the whole story:

Presently, I have a '91 Astro that is a cool project vehicle (planning on a V8 ). Unfortunatly, when I want to work on it, it's pretty tough because I don't have a back-up vehicle to get parts or driving daily. Also, I'm starting to get a bit tired of being ONLY working on vans (it's my second).  

At this point I decided I needed another project vehicle to add variety. So being really influenced by the whole emerging rat rod scene, decided to go with a vehicle that you actually drive. No bling bling for me! >:(

So I played with the idea of a Rat Rod, then a Neon ( :'() and finally, (hopefully! could you imagine... a crappy Neon) stumbled upon your forum.

I was really surprised and  impressed by your vehicles! Here's what caught my attention:

1- Rugged look. No girly-girly Trackers here! That's mainly what surprised me. It's in fact the first time I see well customized Trackers.

2- Driven. You guys use your trucks. No show-off bling bling for 20 000$ that you park in the garage.

3- Creativity. It seems most of you guys do your own customization by yourselves and that's great! Thumbs up!

4- Pretty economical. Well, I did a little research and I think I could get myself a nice vehicle for under 1000$ Can. Plus I would get a economical vehicle. (Gas really expensive here!)

Well, my previous van was an AWD and, even though it wasn't a full on off-road vehicle, I had a heck of a lot of fun driving it around. What a great feeling showing to your Dad that you can drive out of that 2 foot hard snow bank that the plow trapped you inside without even shoveling!

Ok, you guys got my attention. Now, to convince my wife. I strategized, I made a plan and finally I made a back-up plan... I was ready! I showed her your website. And... believe it or not. She found it cool. No not as much as me... But she did find the trucks cute! That's a good start. Plus I had the panflet from '92 to show her (looks better new than used and slightly rusted).

So that's it! I'm going to start looking for a Tracker (I'm a Chevy guy so a Sidekick would be against my principles lol) in March or April but I had a few questions for you guys that might help me avoïd big mistakes.

I'll be looking for a '91-'93 2 door, 4x4, convertible truck.

I plan on doing a minor 3" Calmini lift. New wheels, tires, bumpers and have fun making a "Safari" look to the vehicle. A small sound system to enjoy our CD's. Basically a fun little Tracker...

BTW, your website is great. I'm a frequent visitor of AstroSafari.com and am looking forward to participating in your forum. I appreciate giving help and have good questions and follow the basic "Did you do a search?" rules.

Of course until I find a truck and really start working on it, I'll keep a low profile... I really don't want to be annoying. Also, sorry about the long post but I always appreciate proper introductions....  :-[

Questions1- Should I buy it manual or automatic. Does it make a difference in off-roading. Sorry, I'm new to off-roading.

2- If it comes with a removable hard top, will the "frame" for the soft top still be there? I'd like soft top in summer and removable top in winter.

3- Anything I should look for? Remember you're the experts and unfortunatly, I don't know much yet.

I might add a few questions to this topic later on as I do my research. Soon enough you guys will be seeing a new post with pictures of my findings!

Thanks in advance!

Mat(http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_2_116.gif)
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: TN_Tracker on February 07, 2005, 06:50:38 AM
Welcome Mat, glad to have you with us. To answer your questions:

1. I have a '96 automatic so I'm a little biased and think the auto is best but some prefer the manual, it's all good. My brother has a '96 manual and does fine.

2. From what I understand the soft top hardware must be removed to install a fiberglass hardtop. I've always had a soft top.

3. The earlier models can have computer and idle problems. Check the jacking points on the frame and the top of the fuel tank for rust. The 16v has more power but the 8v seems to have more low-end torque. Stay away from the Sport model, they're not as easy to modify.
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: SnoFalls on February 07, 2005, 07:07:41 AM
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Questions1- Should I buy it manual or automatic. Does it make a difference in off-roading. Sorry, I'm new to off-roading.


You'll get about a 50-50 weigh in here ... some of it heated. I think it a personal thing. I'm using an automatic, and it has it's ups and downs.

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2- If it comes with a removable hard top, will the "frame" for the soft top still be there? I'd like soft top in summer and removable top in winter.


I got one where the softtop was shredded and picked up a used hardtop. (hardtops aren't cheap, and even replacement softtops co$t). I remove the hardtop when it's nice, and replace when parked or cold/rainy. Takes me about 10 minutes to install the top.

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3- Anything I should look for? Remember you're the experts and unfortunatly, I don't know much yet.


Take your time in the search (i.e. don't be in too big a hurry). Watch out for rust, don't worry bout dents. Mechanically these things are pretty simple, and when well maintained start/run good and are dependable.

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I might add a few questions to this topic later on as I do my research. Soon enough you guys will be seeing a new post with pictures of my findings!


Questions are free, and you'll get answers too. Pics are required!

Good Luck in the hunt.
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: adamd on February 07, 2005, 07:34:11 AM
Hey I'm in Montreal too. Let me know if you need any help finding a vehicle or lifting it cheaply.

Adam
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: tracker8wr on February 07, 2005, 10:32:56 AM
for offroad an auto is the best i run a 5 speed standard. the down side to an auto is durabiltiy. i put a hole in the pan it is sgrewed a manuel it still goes. but an auto will make uo for the lack of gear reduction.

look for RUST RUST and make sure it is an unmoded vehicle that means it probly just had around town wear and tear. lock up the 4 wheel deive and make sure everything engages. let it idlke for a while then run it hard then ket it idle again to make sure it doesn't over heat and keep an eye on oil pressuer.

Make sure it has power steering.
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: SnoFalls on February 07, 2005, 10:56:32 AM
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Make sure it has power steering.


I'll second that!
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: mesjr2004 on February 07, 2005, 12:02:56 PM
a 91 or newer ,for transfer case reduction ability
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: SnoFalls on February 07, 2005, 12:13:36 PM
without A/C ...

Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: LilRed on February 07, 2005, 12:33:26 PM
    Watch to make sure the check engine light is working correctly (on when you turn the key on).  I wasn't smart enough to look for that when I bought mine.  ::) The previous owner had removed the bulb cause the light stayed on all the time!    
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: SnoFalls on February 07, 2005, 01:02:29 PM
another good one ... that does it, I'm going to build a FAQ ...
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: HotRod on February 07, 2005, 01:16:09 PM
welcome aboard MatTracker
Looks like you got your answers pretty quick ;D
I have a 95 Tracker 5spd but sometime wished I had an Auto, So its personnel preferance of what you like.
No A/C just makes it easier to work on the engine and keeps what Hp you got handy ;D
Mid 90s are good years for they will have 16valves and P/S. (which you would think would be a stock option :-/)
And as for Girlie rides.
See Heathers ride.
Shes a girl and has the baddest 4dr out there ;D
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/316000-316999/316333_139_full.jpg)
Heathers Ride.
See what I mean? ;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: zukisuzi on February 07, 2005, 01:42:53 PM
Welcome to Suzukis, Mat! Not much from me. Just that I prefer 5 speed for simplicity and more fun to drive. And I 2nd HotRod's judgement on Heather's girly ride!
:o
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: HotRod on February 07, 2005, 04:25:12 PM
I want a girlie ride ;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Mat Tracker on February 09, 2005, 03:39:33 AM
Ok, this time, it'll be short and sweet. ;) This is what I'll be looking for thanks to your suggestions and my tastes:

- '91-'93 (for transfer case reduction ability but not too expensive) Probably not available in sports model.

- Auto, nice to have or else Standard since it's  only going to be light off-road.

- No A/C

- With Power steering

- Check for rust mainly at the jack points and top of fuel tank (Where is that? THE tank, or the metal over it which would be under the back seats?) and also... everywhere.

- Make sure parts necessary for soft top are provided. (thing is if I leave on a weekend and leave the hardtop at home, I might encounter surprises...)

- Make sure SES light turns on... and hopefully, off after a while.

AdamD
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Hey I'm in Montreal too. Let me know if you need any help finding a vehicle

I might take you up on that... When I'm ready I'll PM you!

I think that's it... And for the record (before you guys start sending me SPAM mail) I never said they were girley rides. I said I THOUGHT they were until I took a look at this site...

Thanks a lot guys
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Bobzooki on February 09, 2005, 03:47:30 AM
Well Heather has a girly ride, but when she wants a MANLY ride, up Lion's Back, she does it in the Gnewt!

:P ;D

Click the thumbnail for the big picture...

(http://img167.exs.cx/img167/6599/gnewtskyline7pq.th.jpg) (http://img167.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img167&image=gnewtskyline7pq.jpg)
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: hcgalvin on February 09, 2005, 04:12:12 AM
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Well Heather has a girly ride, but when she wants a MANLY ride, up Lion's Back, she does it in the Gnewt!

:P ;D


I *almost* put that in my sig. LOL.

And what is it with you guys saying NO A/C???

I LOVE MINE!! I love it when I'm out wheeling with my buddies, and they want to sit in my truck cause it's 100 degrees out. I'd also suggest you expand your market to include up to a 1995. You'd have more of a chance for getting a 16 valve. There's not many differences. The major change occured in 1996.
;)
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Drone637 on February 09, 2005, 04:28:30 AM
I have to agree with the A/C.  I don't have one on my SJ, but it was nice pulling into Moab with a nice A/C cooled cabin on my tow rig.

Besides, you can always convert it over to an Onboard Air setup.  ;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: tracker8wr on February 09, 2005, 05:06:17 AM
since ur in canada u may not need A/C but 16 valvue is one thing i forgot to mention to look for.
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: TN_Tracker on February 09, 2005, 06:42:54 AM
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...And what is it with you guys saying NO A/C???...


I don't understand the no A/C thing either. You guys do know it has a button to turn it off, right? With it off the drag is minimal. When it's near 100* and the humidity is in the 90's I really appreciate mine. ;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: SnoFalls on February 09, 2005, 07:25:52 AM
The origininator was from Montreal ... A/C == open the window :) I mean how often does Montreal get 100* days?

Even in the PNW, a hot day isn't bad in shade or with top/windows down.

Course a FRIGGIN desert is a different story! So do you really wheel in a desrt with top on and windows up?

(I can see A/C being a good thing ... I just see that in a used rig, it's probably another thing to fix)
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Bobzooki on February 09, 2005, 07:33:30 AM
Yeah, I have AC on the Gnewt.  I may convert it to On-Board-Air, though.  And the Gnewt is my THIRD 95.

95's are the best Kicks made - fewest failures, most reliable - even the evil Consumer Reports says so.
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: TN_Tracker on February 09, 2005, 07:39:21 AM
I'm in the south where the humidity is so high in the summer you could slice it and put it on a biscuit. ;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: hcgalvin on February 09, 2005, 07:57:35 AM
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I'm in the south where the humidity is so high in the summer you could slice it and put it on a biscuit. ;D


Mmmm.. biscuits... with gravy...
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: hcgalvin on February 09, 2005, 07:59:07 AM
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Course a FRIGGIN desert is a different story! So do you really wheel in a desrt with top on and windows up?


Yup.

Here in SW Idaho, it does still get up to the 100's for a week or two in the summer. And between 80-90 for the rest of the time. So, A/C IS nice. Plus, you can stay cool and keep most of the dust out.
;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Zukipilot on February 09, 2005, 08:02:48 AM
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I'm in the south where the humidity is so high in the summer you could slice it and put it on a biscuit. ;D


Damn I wish summer was here. I miss the 100% Humidity :P
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: TN_Tracker on February 09, 2005, 08:20:30 AM
I really don't like winter, I can't wear shorts. ;D
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: TN_Tracker on February 09, 2005, 08:22:52 AM
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Mmmm.. biscuits... with gravy...


Yep, that's good eatin' ;) You're making me hungry I need to go cook dinner.
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Mat Tracker on February 09, 2005, 08:26:26 AM
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The origininator was from Montreal ... A/C == open the window  I mean how often does Montreal get 100* days?


About 3-4 days a year TOPS! And on those days, I'd rather find a pool than a trail..

Ok, on the nice to have list but not essential...

Don't fight over the A/C!
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: Bobzooki on February 09, 2005, 08:38:33 AM
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I really don't like winter, I can't wear shorts. ;D


What are you, some kind of light-weight?

If the temp's above freezing, I'll wear shorts!

Now let's have a bowl O' grits, and I want a sunny-side-up egg on top of them grits!
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: TN_Tracker on February 09, 2005, 09:05:11 AM
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What are you, some kind of light-weight?

If the temp's above freezing, I'll wear shorts!

Now let's have a bowl O' grits, and I want a sunny-side-up egg on top of them grits!


(http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/spit.gif) Frostbite on me lower bits is not desirable. ;D Grits and eggs are good but I like rice and sunny-side-up eggs, that's Carolina Low-Country Style. (http://www.anchoredbygrace.com/smileys/hungrysmiley.gif)
Title: Re: New guy needs help before hand...
Post by: hcgalvin on February 09, 2005, 09:18:43 AM
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What are you, some kind of light-weight?

If the temp's above freezing, I'll wear shorts!


(http://webpages.charter.net/connectingzone/happy/3.gif)

Nate is this way too. He puts on his shorts and wears his Tivas. He always comes home and says his coworkers look at him crosseyed.