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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: strvger on June 12, 2006, 06:39:40 PM
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hi, just put on some 235/75x15 tires and was wondering if the spare timre mount on the rear door of my 1991 Tracker 2 door hard top will handle the weight of a 235x15 tire on a steel wheel without breaking anytime soon. the wheel is from a jeep and a little bigger/heavier than a stock trac-kick wheel. is there a mod that should be done to reinforce the mounting points in the door? this is my daily driver and i go 60 miles daily round trip to work and back. don't want problems during the rush hour or anytime really!
thanks in advance :)
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my space tire carrier was all good with a 235 but about a month of rough gravel roads and a 31" tire on it the mount started to break. i welded it up to make it stronger and then it cracked inside the rear door so the spare is now in the back until i get a new roof rack.
derek
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Is there a fix for the spare mount and big tire problem? My Tracker will soon be back on 31's but it just has an itsy bitsy 205/75R15 spare because of space and strength issues. :P Better than nothing but not much...
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Here's a good fix for the tire carrier ;D
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Heeeellllooooooo wind drag... :P
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Heeeellllooooooo wind drag... :P
lol, not like we're driving sports cars here though right ;D
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That's great for a 2 door but what about a 4 door
I was thinking about a custom tube bumper with a notch to at least hold the 31" spare at the bottom of the tire. That way the stock spare carrier would shoulder less of the weight
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Heeeellllooooooo wind drag... :P
lol, not like we're driving sports cars here though right ;D
Eh, I try to keep all the mpg as high as I can...a rack like that is just going to suck mpg away.
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Heeeellllooooooo wind drag... :P
lol, not like we're driving sports cars here though right ;D
Eh, I try to keep all the mpg as high as I can...a rack like that is just going to suck mpg away.
I made a homeade basket for the top of my trackick and my mpg dropped by about 3 mpg and it sounded like a huricane once i got above 40mph.
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I've heard similar comments SO many times before...those racks look cool but unless you really, really, need the storage capability, they're just going to make your vehicle less fun to drive. Worse mpg and more annoying cabin noise.
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my 18 is mounted pretty well on my 4D
you just have to tighten the bolts a few times from when you put them on
(almost like rims/tires)
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/673000-673999/673055_335_full.jpg)(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/673000-673999/673055_326.jpg)
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I modified my spare tire carrier to accept a 31" tire, at the same time I did my bumper and gas tank lift. I sectioned it, raised the actual tire mounting point just high enough so it still fits in the wheel, and I beefed it up by gusseting all the corners. But even before that I've had that 31 on there for over a year without any problems. Lots of trail rides and plenty of rockin' at Paragon. I know the mounts are different between the ragtops and tintops, ( my parts car is a ragtop) maybe the tintop is stronger.
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thanks for all the suggestions. i think i might try to work on something from the bumper that would take at least some, if not most, of the weight off the tire carrier.
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:) Wow, twin tintops. They look like long lost brothers.
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Heeeellllooooooo wind drag... :P
lol, not like we're driving sports cars here though right ;D
Eh, I try to keep all the mpg as high as I can...a rack like that is just going to suck mpg away.
yeah don't i feel like a tool, i didn't think of it in the mpg aspect. back on topic, not exactly sure how the tire carrier is mounted(pretty green yet on trackicks) but would it be possible to just make a large metal plate(for on the inside of the door where the carrier mounts to) and mount the carrier through the plate to help dissipate the weight?
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This is my mod I did for fitting a 30" MTR
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/suzukiboyoz/30mtr.jpg)
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/suzukiboyoz/sparewheelbracket.jpg)
Or mod you bumper.
(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d136/suzukiboyoz/bumper3.jpg)
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Sure, just remove the inner panel and you can get a look at how it mounts. The bolts go into weld nuts, so if you want to add a plate of some sort you would have to remove them first. Probably tear up the door doing it though.
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Suzukiboyz, nice bumper, did you make that? If not who sells that?
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would it be possible to just make a large metal plate(for on the inside of the door where the carrier mounts to) and mount the carrier through the plate to help dissipate the weight?
I have always thought that the weight concern was more for the hinges of the rear door, not the carrier getting pulled off of the door. Which is the reason I posted a pic of an aftermarket bumper with tire carrier... of course everyone went off on the roof rack instead :P I was not suggesting that you put the spare tire on the roof.
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Has anyone beefed up the hinges or is there a swap for hinges off another vehicle
I was not thinking of the hinges either
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The problem I've seen, on 2 door soft top Track/Kicks at least, is that the outer door skin tears as mentioned before. My '93 and '90 both have that...and neither ever had anything other than a 205/75R15 OEM spare on them. :P
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In that case wouldn't a big(ger) washer inside the door at each of the bolts take care of the problem. I wouldn't expect that you would need to add a metal plate.
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I had a 30inch superswamper on a 10inch wide steel wheel on the back of my tracker for 2 years and i have had a 33 back there for 6 months now and ive never had any problems.--no extra bracing or anything
(http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/761000-761999/761931_99_full.jpg)
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thanks guys for all the input. it was the door skin i was most concerned about. looking at all your pics and reading the comments, i think i will try to remove the rear bumper plastic and rig something that will mount to the bumper and support most of the tire/wheel weight.
or, i could just get one of those real fancy roof racks and hook a bunch of bungee cords from it to the tire to take the weight off!! ;D
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how are you going to be able to use the rear bumper without hindering the door from opening unless you do some kind of swing down tire carrier thing?
milk
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well, not completely sure, but was thinking of something like a small roller like is used on small boat trailers. depending on how i work the bumper, the roller would be fixed on it and when the door closes, the tire would ride up on the roller only about half an inch maybe. just enough to give the tire some support. that small amount shouldn't affect the door alignment much if any. not sure til i get the plastic off the bumper to see what else might work. open to all ideas at this point. ???
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what i was thinking was maybe like how some tire carriers(like the one on my old pathfinder) swing out, make one that was hinged to the bumper that swung down and only latched to the door. that'd probably take alot of the stress off eh? probably be a bit of work to make though.
milk
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Suzukiboyz, nice bumper, did you make that? If not who sells that?
Yes made it up my self. Just have to mod the exhaust sticks out in the wide blue yonder now.
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:) Nice work, looks good and strong too.