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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: fullsink18 on June 22, 2006, 05:40:27 AM
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I got my full calmini exhaust yesterday. I have the old one completely taken off. Man, was it shot it was the orginal exhaust on a 94 kick. I will have to take some pictures of how many holes were in it.
I recored what my old exhaust sounded like and will recored what the new one sounds like for comparision also.
One question about the calmini exhuast. Do you reuses the rubber hanger things or just bolt their brackets to the mounting spot without the rubbers?
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You'll need rubbers because the engine moves on its mountings. Without them the exhaust will crack.
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Thanks, I figured I would need them.
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I have the calmini exhaust it sounded ok
then I cut the last 14 inches off the tail pipe and put a 3'' piece that points straight out the baxk no it has a real nice rumble sound
Dustin
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I replaced the Calmini muffler with a 18" cherry bomb. Sounds nice and MUCH better flowing than the Calmini muffler would have been.
Their instructions suck so your best bet is to just wing it. Don't expect any helpful hints from them.
My CarSounds replacement cat that I installed and whatever OEM or replacement cat that I had originally wouldn't have installed to the Calmini exhaust by any methods. I ended up just whacking the last couple inches off of the CarSounds cat, not using the Calmini flange, and just sticking the slightly longer cherry bomb in between them. 8)
Good value for the money but you're obviously not buying a Flowmaster, Magnaflow, Borla, etc exhaust system.
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My Calmini setup should be going on the truck 2nd week in July. I'm not going to bother with a cat., as we don't have emissions testing here in my neck of the woods. What kind of mileage and power increase am I going be looking at? Estimates?
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::) Unless you live in an anarchal state (Somalia for example) it's generally a governmental regulation that says you have to have your exhaust systems intact. It's a federal law in the USA and I know Canada says the same thing.
That said, don't expect much with or without the cat unless your system is so crappy now that the cat and muffler are clogged right up. I noticed a little bit of an improvement when I put my high flow cat and straight through muffler on with the Calmini setup. Is it there? Yep. Is it the same as a blower or huffer? No.
Also, do some research. A lot of testing recently has shown that gutting or removing cats compaired to running a modern, high flowing cat is basically pointless and ineffective. Some tests show a very minor gain, others statistically no difference, and some show a loss of power. For what it gets you the chance at getting that federal ticket from the officer isn't worth it in my opinion. Yes, I've seen that ticket issued and beleive me it ain't cheap.
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I have the calmini exhaust it sounded ok
then I cut the last 14 inches off the tail pipe and put a 3'' piece that points straight out the baxk no it has a real nice rumble sound
Dustin
that's a good idea. I did 2.5 inch after my muffler on my Y back 2-1/4 system I made for my GV. on the end there is an 18 inch long 3 inch diameter tip and I love the sound much more than when it was just 2.5 after the muffler with no 3 inch.. sounds bigger and more mean
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::) Unless you live in an anarchal state (Somalia for example) it's generally a governmental regulation that says you have to have your exhaust systems intact. It's a federal law in the USA and I know Canada says the same thing.
That said, don't expect much with or without the cat unless your system is so crappy now that the cat and muffler are clogged right up. I noticed a little bit of an improvement when I put my high flow cat and straight through muffler on with the Calmini setup. Is it there? Yep. Is it the same as a blower or huffer? No.
Also, do some research. A lot of testing recently has shown that gutting or removing cats compaired to running a modern, high flowing cat is basically pointless and ineffective. Some tests show a very minor gain, others statistically no difference, and some show a loss of power. For what it gets you the chance at getting that federal ticket from the officer isn't worth it in my opinion. Yes, I've seen that ticket issued and beleive me it ain't cheap.
1. I am operating under the understanding that it is illegal to modify existing emissions control equipment. However, I have been told that replacement components (i.e.: A aftermarket new exhaust system) does not have to make your vehicle meet the same emission standards as the existing system. I'm assuming that if your vehicle does not meet emissions standards, its illegal, but because we have no emissions testing here in Alberta for light passenger vehicles...who the hell is going know? Besides the old converter is shot anyway so what good is it doing anyway?
Try phoning a local police station with questions about Highway Safety Traffic Act...Either the cop doesn't have a clue, or he thinks he knows what he's talking about, actually doesn't, and misapplies the law. Once I got a ticket for my fog lamps, they weren't even on and they were factory equipment.  :-\
2. The chances of me getting a ticket for running an exhuast system without a cat. are pretty much non-existant. The police here either are: 1. So busy there is no way they even have the time to check. 2. No nothing about vehicles (see above).
3. The only reason why I don't want to run a cat. is because mine is rotten out and I don't feel like spending money (lots of $$$) on a replacement. I don't think I'm going to get a massive HP boost, but I am curious how much backpressure one adds.
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Don't forget, to run on National Forest Land you need to have a spark arresting system in your exhaust. So no cherry bombs without working converters, you can get a nasty ticket for that.
They can just give you a ticket and make you go down to the shop and prove your cat is working. Of course, that also gives you time to fix it... :P
They have been cracking down on illegal exhaust setups in the North West to cut down on the risk of forest fires. It just meant the buggies had to put turbo mufflers on instead of straight pipe.
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I started to install the full exhaust systems this past weekend. I took the header and cleaned the ports up a little with a die grinder, to help flow. It rained alot Friday and I have no garage. When the weather broke I put the headers on. They bolted up nicely. I the realized that my o2 sensor will have to be lengthed to reach the new spot no biggy. Saturday I decided to get up early and bolt the cat on. Well that is a pain in the a!!. It was hard to hold it and get the flange lined up. After some struggles I got it on. Then I went to install the short pipe and thats when it all went down hill. The bracket to mount the pipe to the body was not even close to the mounting hanger. My exhuast needs moved up a couple of inches and over one or two inches. It looks like the header bottom points inward to much. So that is where it sits in my yard on jack stands. The weather does not look good up here for the whole week.
I am just wondering if anybody else had this problem?
I bought the full bolt on exhaust from calmini. Thinking this is something I could do with out bothering my dad to help and weld stuff.
Any suggestions?
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I am running an 18 inch cherry bomb muffler as well. The old ones heat shield had pulled the welds and would rattle when ever I would take off. The only down side is that the cherry bomb muffler was the smallest diameter I could find (2"), and the pipes on the tracker are 1.75" diameter, so I had to do some filling with the welder (had already cut the old muffler off when I discovered that it wasnt the right size, laziness was to blame for that one ::))
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Well I have already spent the money for the calmini exhaust. So i am going to make it work. I guess I will have to weld a new bracket on the short pipe after the cat to get stuff lined up again. I will also have to make it so that it pulls the exhaust over some. I was just wandering if anyone else had this problem. I spend the 550 on this exhuast cause it was completely bolt on. Does aftermarket stuff ever work right.
If anyone has a suggestion as to something i might have done wrong with installing the header and cat (all part of the full kit) let me know.
Thanks
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Well I have already spent the money for the calmini exhaust. So i am going to make it work. I guess I will have to weld a new bracket on the short pipe after the cat to get stuff lined up again.  I will also have to make it so that it pulls the exhaust over some. I was just wandering if anyone else had this problem. I spend the 550 on this exhuast cause it was completely bolt on. Does aftermarket stuff ever work right.ÂÂ
If anyone has a suggestion as to something i might have done wrong with installing the header and cat (all part of the full kit) let me know.
Thanks
Did you give Calmini a quick ring?
I found them helpfull with inquires a while back with my 3" lift.
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Man trying to get all this project stuff done between work and a class sucks balls. But I spent a good portion of last night getting the exhuast fitted up the right way. I finally got the brackets to line up better. It still makes the rubber pieces stretch a bit but it works. Drove it today to class and something was definitely rubbing and vibrating. Went home helped dad put a radiator in my moms del sol and then we checked the zuk out. I guess the heat sheild that is next to the cat was pushing on it causing the noise and vibrations. We bent the hell out of it and to make room. Stopped the vibration sounds like a good exhaust finally. Heck of a project. Glad to have it done. I will have to wait to start the calmini body lift till i get my car back. I will get some pics up of the old and new exhaust.
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Nice to know you were able to get it up and working properly. :)
There is a local exhaust shop that does really good work for a reasonable price. I usually just have them bend up a custom setup for me whenever I need a new exhaust on a rig. I'm very lazy these days. :D
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I used to do the same thing, pay for someone else to do it, when I lived in SoCal but as I've found since I moved back east in '01, in some places it's impossible to find competent exhaust shops and mandrel bending.
Me-"Do you mandrel bend?"
Them-"Mandel?"
Me-"Mandrel...without the kinks or narrowed diameter."
Them-"Like for mufflers and stuff?"
Me-"Thanks for your time..." ::)
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You can get pretty spoiled with a shop that will let you sit there and BS with them while they are welding up your new exhaust. :)
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Yeah, when I lived in San Diego there was a place in El Cajon I used to have do my work. Nice people, good prices (sometimes I felt guilty when I was leaving), welded seams, and cool stuff. I'd usually sit around and look at the cool stuff they were working on or peruse their picture books of the hot rods, 4x4's, and lowriders they'd worked on or built. 8)
Up here? Crimp bends, cheaper than aluminized piping, overcharging, and muffler clamps...