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Title: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: chet on February 04, 2005, 03:55:13 AM
Ok I did a search and found info on mounting a bumper to a 2 door but looking at the front of my 4 door its totally different. Anyone got any pics or suggestions before I start on this?
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: Bobzooki on February 04, 2005, 04:57:25 AM
They're different???

Hmm, I have had the "bumper cover" off my 4-door, I guess, but I can't recall any differences.

Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: red_baron on February 04, 2005, 05:01:25 AM
the 4 door bumper bolts to the front of the crossmember between the lights.
as well as down by the front wheels.
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: chet on February 04, 2005, 05:35:59 AM
here is a 2 door

(http://www.suzukivitara4x4.nl/images/Albums/bumper/photos/fotos%20bumper%20002.jpg)

and here is the best 4 door pic I could find

(http://photos.zuwharrie.com/users/whitfimb/kick_on_34s.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: hcgalvin on February 04, 2005, 05:47:10 AM
Not sure what exactly you are looking for..

but on my 4 door the original front inner bumper, and the brackets for the calmini winch bumper mounted here:

(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/DCP_4743.jpg)

With those lower brackets looking sort of like this (sorry, best pic I have)

(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/DCP_1766.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: mudfkr on February 04, 2005, 06:03:42 AM
Hmmm totaly different, wonder why ?

heres the factory 3 door mounts, two 8mm bolts each side.  
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/bumper mounts 1m.JPG)

Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: Bobzooki on February 04, 2005, 06:14:46 AM
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heres the factory 3 door mounts


That's funny!  "3 Door".  Is that what I would call a 2-door tin-top?  Or just a regular 2-Door?
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: mudfkr on February 04, 2005, 06:20:53 AM
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That's funny!  "3 Door".  Is that what I would call a 2-door tin-top?  Or just a regular 2-Door?

OK for you BOB, it's a '93 factory 2 door tin top (with a factory bucket dash  ;D)

Technically it is a 3 door really.....
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: chet on February 04, 2005, 06:59:03 AM
So the Calmini bumper bolts to the factory 4 holes!  :o :o

Those are some pretty tiny bolts to be winching against!

I am building a bumper to hold my winch and was looking for something more stout than factory. Those bolts are fine for a thin stock bumper in a collision but when winching its not what I would call confidence inspiring.
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: mudfkr on February 04, 2005, 07:12:36 AM
If your doing a custom bumper I'd be cutting the front body mount off the frame then cutting some 3/8 or 1/2" plate to the shape of the frame  and tapping some 3/8 bolt holes in it as bumper mounting points and welding it on and then weld the body mount back on top of it.

Kind similar to what I done in the pic above but with the 2 door I had to work to the inside of the frame.
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: chet on February 04, 2005, 07:41:39 AM
now thats a hell of an idea! Thanks! I will be sure to post pics when done.
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: mudfkr on February 04, 2005, 08:07:50 AM
Chet,
Although mines a 2Dr have a look at my pix here http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mudfkrs/album?.dir=1ac4 it might give you some ideas before you start.

As you'll see it  started out with no winch, mounted a winch on it, then finally remounted it and got it to where I was finally happy with it.

HTH Mud  
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: whitfield on February 04, 2005, 08:57:15 PM
It's not a 2 dr 4dr thing it is a early model / late model thing.   My 94 4dr has the later style mounts.  

I've got a 2 dr with the late mounts (Narrow) and a 4 dr with the early mounts (Wide)..    And I've got a 1998 with one of Each...  Bought crashed and lacked a good spare late model mount.
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: Rhinoman on February 05, 2005, 08:54:40 AM
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So the Calmini bumper bolts to the factory 4 holes!  :o :o

Those are some pretty tiny bolts to be winching against!


Its a pretty scary thought, I had my winch bumper custom made. New mountings are welded to the front of the chassis. Theres a total of 6 M12 bolts holding the bumper on.

(http://www.rhinoman.org/mods/images/mount.jpg)
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: hcgalvin on February 05, 2005, 09:44:44 AM
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Its a pretty scary thought, I had my winch bumper custom made. New mountings are welded to the front of the chassis. Theres a total of 6 M12 bolts holding the bumper on.

([url]http://www.rhinoman.org/mods/images/mount.jpg[/url])



Yeah, a lot of people weld the Calmini winch bumper mount brackets to the frame where they go.
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: whitfield on February 05, 2005, 05:48:58 PM
I believe the bumpers are designed that way so that the frame is not the weakest point.  The frames are so thin I'm suprised they stand up to as much winching as they do.  
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: chrisvitarasport94 on February 06, 2005, 01:36:59 AM
waht do you do about infilling below the bumper down to the A arm pivots, where a skid plate usually starts from?
Title: Re: 4 door front bumper mounting?
Post by: mudfkr on February 06, 2005, 04:31:49 AM
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waht do you do about infilling below the bumper down to the A arm pivots, where a skid plate usually starts from?


It would be easy enough to take it to a sheet metal shop and have them fold some thing up out of 3/16' plate to go from your x-member underneath to the bumper.