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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Quaddawg on July 11, 2006, 06:24:37 PM

Title: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Quaddawg on July 11, 2006, 06:24:37 PM
OK, I saw one at the Melt, heard the guy had some for sale.. then completely forgot who had them!!!

Was it Stan??


How much?

When can I get a kit?

Anyone know?  It's this or a 2wd low from RRO, and I would loads rather have the Twin Stick..

Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: ROSS on July 11, 2006, 06:35:45 PM
stan is making them
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: locjaw on July 11, 2006, 08:36:48 PM
yep, 37kicker (stan)makes them, and they are bitchin
jason
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: JayN on July 11, 2006, 09:03:53 PM
more info would be cool
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: wildgoody on July 11, 2006, 09:09:22 PM
It's a twin stick too  ;D
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: track_this on July 12, 2006, 01:33:03 AM
hey stan chime in here :D
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on July 17, 2006, 08:02:58 PM
hey stan chime in here :D

Stan cant get online right now. He has a new internet service and lost his password or something. I will try to get some pics for you guys in the near future.

Mike
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Maroon Monsoon on July 18, 2006, 12:38:16 AM
are the T cases on 2nd gens similar enough or the same as 1st gens? what I'm getting at is I wouldn't mind a twin stick either
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Jimiweld on July 18, 2006, 06:12:55 AM
I'd like to know more about the twin sticks as well. I gather this is another method of gearing to allow larger tires, is this correct?
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: wildgoody on July 18, 2006, 07:58:34 AM
Nope, it allows you to have 2WD in low range
and shift from 2 hi 4 hi and 4 lo 2 lo without going
through the whole T-case shifting pattern
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Quaddawg on July 18, 2006, 08:45:34 AM
Also, it allows you to have the front engaged, and the rear disengaged..  so you can do burn turns (lock the rear brakes, and pull yourself around with the fronts engaged..) great for tight trails and rock crawling.
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Jimiweld on July 18, 2006, 09:15:20 AM
Ok, that sounds interesting, is it a complicated set up?
Just curious, it's way too expensive for me but the Calmini website offers rock crawling gears for the T-case.  If you had a set of these in then would you be able to run larger tires 33-35".
If you put these in could you still drive it at normal highway speeds in 2 wheel hi?
Thanks
Jim
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Maroon Monsoon on July 18, 2006, 10:15:58 AM
wow, you can have the front engaged and the back disengaged? holy crap, what a versitle setup. someday I think I should do this to my GV
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: ADavis on July 18, 2006, 10:16:48 AM
The Calmini gears do not effect your 2WD speeds.  In 4Lo, you can easily run 33 and probably 35's.  I have 31's with the 4.24 T-case and 5.62 Dif gears and I litterially idle up stuff that before took a heavy right foot to tackle. 
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Mikerpm4x4 on July 18, 2006, 02:54:38 PM
The Calmini gears do not effect your 2WD speeds. 

Thats actually not entirely true. The Calmini t case gears do not effect the high range. If you have a twin stick you can shift into 2 low. The tracker case does not allow you to disengage the rear, even with a twin stick.

Mike
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Quaddawg on July 18, 2006, 03:59:03 PM
The Calmini gears do not effect your 2WD speeds. 

Thats actually not entirely true. The Calmini t case gears do not effect the high range. If you have a twin stick you can shift into 2 low. The tracker case does not allow you to disengage the rear, even with a twin stick.

Mike

Oh..... really?  Then what is the point of having the twin stick?  Why would it be better than just, say, the RRO kit that alters the shift pattern of the single selector?
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Maroon Monsoon on July 18, 2006, 04:06:33 PM
oh, bummer, it would be cool if the twin stick did give that much selectability. on old army jeeps I heard they have twin stick and can disengage the rear or front. that means if you break spider gears or something in the back and you can still roll on that axle you can just put it in front wheel drive and get home
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: wildgoody on July 18, 2006, 06:14:26 PM
Quote

Oh..... really?  Then what is the point of having the twin stick?  Why would it be better than just, say, the RRO kit that alters the shift pattern of the single selector?

It allows you to select the range and drive you
want without going through the whole pattern

Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: gravity_storm on July 18, 2006, 11:55:38 PM
I like the idea of the twin stick way better than the question mark pattern that the single stick gives. Being able to disengage the rear would be nice but I can live without that.


So....... anyone going to jump in here with a price?  ??? ;D
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: ruin9fy on July 19, 2006, 04:37:39 PM
hmm i was just gona get the gears from trail tuff
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Quaddawg on July 19, 2006, 08:30:16 PM
hmm i was just gona get the gears from trail tuff

If you are getting gears, then it would be silly to not spend another 100 bucks or so and get either the twin stick, or RRO's  2 wheel low kit.


Yeah, I was hoping there was a way to make it a true twin stick, but I have never even seen the inside of the tracker case... yet...  So I just assumed.. lol... I know better than to assume.. I thought.

Anyway, yesh, it would be nice to not have to shift through the whole pattern.. and the twin stick definitely has a cool factor all to it's self.

One way or the other, when I do a clutch, or gears, or for some other reason I have the tranny/case out, I will do one or the other mod for sure.   ESPECIALLY with the front locker that is going in soon. It will be invaluable to be able to run it in 2wd low then.. avoiding accidental breakage, and wear and tear on the fragile aluminum front componants.


Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Drone637 on July 19, 2006, 08:41:57 PM
Doesn't Trail Tough have a rear driveline disconnect kit?
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: Quaddawg on July 19, 2006, 08:50:47 PM
For Sammy maybe, but not for Kicks, unless they just came out with it.
Title: Re: Twin Stick for Track/Kick
Post by: 37kicker on July 31, 2006, 05:55:29 PM
back on line , thank mike for answering the ??'s   stan