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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Suzuki1.8 on January 13, 2005, 08:41:14 AM
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Hey everybody how's it going? Well i got a question am i the only person to own sidekick sport with 1.8. I know i can't be cause more then half of the sidekick 4 dr produced in 97 and 98 were 1.8. So why is it i can't find any mods for my rig. Example header or intake. I currently have a 1997 4 dr sidekick sport with 1.8. I have 2 1/2 magnaflow exhaust. i made my own open air intake and its chiped. I want to put a header on and maybe short throw shifter, and if money permits a turbo. Any help with how to find 1.8 parts would be awsome.
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YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!! I too have a '98 sport with the 1.8 and made my own 2" exhaust with a Flowmaster muffler. I put in 2" spring spacers, longer rear shocks, flipped the strut mount and am running 265x16's. I was told that the 1.8 exhaust manifold is fairly similar to a header and so no one made a header for it. Actually there are some parts that fit the regular 1.6 kick that will fit the 1.8. Take your exhaust manifold gasket and have it traced onto a CNC machine and you should be able to have a turbo manifold made. HTH Good luck! 8)
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I was told that the 1.8 exhaust manifold is fairly similar to a header and so no one made a header for it.   8)
This is true. The 1.6 16V, 1.8, 2.0, 2.5 and 2.7 have actual pipes instead of a cast iron manifold.
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Well, it's more like a cast iron header,
like the Hemi's came with in the Cuda's
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The 1.6 16V, 1.8, 2.0, 2.5 and 2.7 have actual pipes instead of a cast iron manifold.
Well, the 1.6/16 has a cast iron boat anchor. I've replaced BOTH of my 1.6/16 exhaust manifolds with Calmini headers - definitely an improvement!
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I have seen :o both that's why I included the 1.6 16V. My 97 1.6 16V had the cast iron Speed/Rev limiter ::) attached to it. But I also saw a 98 1.6 16V ChevyTracker in the junk yard with a piped exhaust manifold. Also saw one on a New body style 1.6 16V 2-door Tracker don't know what year that one was though.
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Wow my assumption must be right, 1 Person had 1.8 so far. Why is there so little people that modify this engine. I think it a awsome engine. its fast to. I love the look on the faces of other imports that people think are the shit when you fly by in your little 4dr suzuki. Suzukis really are the underdog when it comes to imports but people should take a harder look at them.
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I think that the issue is that the Sport models have a wider frame, and a lot of the aftermarket stuff that is so awesome on the rest of the Sidekicks, doesn't FIT the Sport model. I'd love to have a 1.8 or a 2.0 in my 95 Kick!
Does the 1.8 have a distributor?
I know the 2.5 V6 does NOT.
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no the 1.8 does not have a distributer it has individual coil packs i also like the full aluminum engine and chain drive over head cams
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POst pics of the motor please
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I had a sport too. Loved that car but I couldn't tow my trial rig with it so I had to let it go so I could buy my Ram. Should of kept it the monthly payment on it was 121.00.
Anyhow there is some mods for it. If you have been to Rocky Roads site the Rocksteady lift kit is on a sidekick sport. Looks pretty damn good too.
There is also a guy that modified a Calmini kit to fit his sport too but I can't remember the site.
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If you have been to Rocky Roads site the Rocksteady lift kit is on a sidekick sport.  Looks pretty damn good too. ÂÂ
Yes it sure does!
Before
(http://www.rocky-road.com/media/riggskick1.JPG)
After
(http://www.rocky-road.com/media/riggskick3.JPG)
(http://www.rocky-road.com/media/riggskick2.JPG)
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how do you post pictures
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More info on this motor
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r u going to post more on the 1.8 i like the coil packs id it the tranny as the 1.6. what is the hp differance.
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how do you post pictures
http://www.eye-irritant.com/upload/
EXPLOSIVO set this site up for Freebie postings ;D
Copy the URL#
come back here and post by
Click on the pic below the S (4th from the left)
and Paste # between the  [img] RIGHT HERE [img]
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Well as far as i know the 1.6 was rated at 95hp and the 1.8 was rated at 120. I have owned three suzukis including a 88 samuri and and 2 dr kick with a 1.6 and this 4 dr blows them away. I average 25mpg around town and 28 to 29 on highway. The tranmission i belive is the same on all sidekicks its not divorced like the sami. the engine is all aluminum and has twin over head cams and is muiltiport fuel injection. easy to put open air intake as there is no map sensor. If i learn how to post pictures on here i will do that. I also learned that the jdm spec 2.0 is almost the identicle engine but v6 and will bolt up to the 1.8 tranmission or you can bolt the all wheel drive one.
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here are some pics of my suzuki and engine(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/suzuki 4.jpg)(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/suzuki 3.jpg)(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/suzuki 1.jpg)
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this web site has specifacation for all sidekicks
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/used/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/2233
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([url]http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/suzuki[/url] 1.jpg)
I LOVE that hood.
That's it. My next 4 door is going to be a Sport. They're just kewl.
Unless I decide to buy a GV.
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How is the power in the 1.8 cause im debating the 98 sidekick sport 1.8 or a 99 grand vitra 2.5v6 both 5 spds.
Is there a big difference in power in the two cause the difference in price is like 3g's more for the grand vitra.
How is the power in the two motors
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The power in the sidekick 1.8 is awsome so is the fuel mileage. The only reason i did not get a vitra is cause i feel the interior is cheaper and the body is to average it looks like a rav 4 and most of the other small suvs. the power difference is 45 hp between the two. I have pulled 2 atvs before just fine and had no problem keeping highway speeds. I have also raced vitras had no problems passing it. I have a 2 1/2 inch magnaflow exhaust open air intake. i had jet performance make a chip and it has a centerforce clutch. the only suzuki i would tade my kick in for would be a xl 7. 2.5 v6 165hp 1.8 i4 120 both have dohc and coil pack with chain drive.
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How is the power in the 1.8 cause im debating the 98 sidekick sport 1.8 or a 99 grand vitra 2.5v6 both 5 spds.
Is there a big difference in power in the two cause the difference in price is like 3g's more for the grand vitra.
How is the power in the two motors
The 1.8 and the 2.0 4cylinder are identical in apparance.
I owned a 1.6, 2.0 4cyl and now own a 2.5 V6 Tracker. NIGHT and DAY differance!!!. The 2.5 V6s' power was bumped up on the 2004 TrackVits.
Also I don't think the 1.8 will bolt up to a 1.6 trans.
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I LOVE that hood.
That's it. My next 4 door is going to be a Sport. They're just kewl.
Unless I decide to buy a GV.
I just want the scoop on my black one ;D
Next 4dr, eh?
SAS A GV with the V-6 already in one ;D
Thats a thought ;D
Buy my 4dr so I can do it ;) ;D
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Well i guess i'm just stuck in the thought that suzukis are ment to be square. That is why i refuse to go way of the gv. also they don't offer more towing capabilties or room. they do offer push button four wheel drive on 04, which to me is going agianst why i own a suzuki. I like simple locking hubs manule shift and frame on body. That is why i love suzuki. God knows you don't buy them for hauling power. But please don't get mad at me for that is my opinon. And as to the hood scoop thankyou for the comments. All it is though is a universal hood scoop i picked up at pep boys and had painted and put on.
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*Also I don't think the 1.8 will bolt up to a 1.6 trans.*
I just had my 1.8 trans rebuilt (thanks Mike) and the transmission is the same as the 1.6, but the bell housing is different.  That is an easy swap.  The 1.8  manual uses a hydraulic clutch as well and there is a casting on the bell housing to bolt that part on.  The main shaft (input) is the same length as the 1.6.  FYI
P.S. Heather, I'll sell you my '98 kick sport
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P.S. Heather, I'll sell you my '98 kick sport
Yeah, but you live all the way over in Minnesooota.
;) Unless you're comin' to Moab, then, in which case, how much do you want for it, and what color is it?
Heather
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the other cool thing is they came with factory strut tower braces.. Soon as i find one in a wrecking yard I am cutting it up to put on my tracker..
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Unless you're comin' to Moab, then, in which case, how much do you want for it, and what color is it?
As a matter of fact I am going to Moab again this year.  It is a black 1998 kick Sport with the bottom 1/4 painted black as well (over the factory tan color).  It has the 1.8 with the 5 speed.  I put 2" coil spacers in it and am running 265x16's.  Rims are black factory steel as well.  It has 88xxx miles on it.  Full size spare.  I'm thinking around $4200.00?  Let me know what you think.  Jeff ÂÂ
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It has 88xxx miles on it.
Wait - you're in Minnesota - how bad is the rust? There's something that a lot of us "dry climate" people just don't think about.
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Wait - you're in Minnesota - how bad is the rust? There's something that a lot of us "dry climate" people just don't think about.
(http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/+1.gif)
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The rig has no rust. It was undercoated (by Suzuki) and it is clean. The rear door hinge and the shock towers have some surface rust but that is it. It does have a couple scratches. ;D
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Hey this forum is turning into a used car lot lol. I to will be in moab but not in my suzuki since it has no lift and scraps on big speed bumps. Instead i'll be driving my suzukis big brother my 67 bronco. Moab kicks ass. Two years ago i saw a sami with 44s and portal axles with a stock 1.3 liter engine down there top speed 30 mph. I think i even have pictures of it . i'll have to find it and post them.
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Hey this forum is turning into a used car lot lol. I to will be in moab but not in my suzuki since it has no lift and scraps on big speed bumps. Instead i'll be driving my suzukis big brother my 67 bronco. Moab kicks ass. Two years ago i saw a sami with 44s and portal axles with a stock 1.3 liter engine down there top speed 30 mph. I think i even have pictures of it . i'll have to find it and post them.
Yup, that was jake..
(http://www.granitepath.com/photo/20040403Moab/goldenspike/DCP_5750.jpg)
But the cool thing? He'll be down there this year with a 4 Door on those axles.. ;D :o
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That would be the one. Hey do you have a soild axle up front of your kick. That is a nice kick. I have those same tail lights. What size tire you running. They look like 33 but on a kick they look huge.
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That would be the one. Hey do you have a soild axle up front of your kick. That is a nice kick. I have those same tail lights. What size tire you running. They look like 33 but on a kick they look huge.
Her life story
http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7hcg/
stu
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Wow that is a nice sidekick. Only thing i think it needs is about 1 or 2 more antennas, you can never have enough antennas lol. Was the soild axle conversion pretty hard and why leaf springs instead of coil? I would think sticking with a four link would be easier?
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Her life story
[url]http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7hcg/[/url]
stu
Hahaha..
Indeed.
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Well, she doesn't have any Red-Eared Gnewts on her site.
::)
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Well, she doesn't have any Red-Eared Gnewts on her site.
::)
Yeah I do, under EJS anyway..
http://www.granitepath.com/photo/20040403Moab/index.htm
BobZooki Does Lions Back
(http://www.granitepath.com/photo/20040403Moab/boblionsback/DCP_5820.jpg)
;) Guess I need to find a good pic of your truck and put it under "Various Pics of other trucks" eh?
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Wow that is a nice sidekick. Only thing i think it needs is about 1 or 2 more antennas, you can never have enough antennas lol. Was the soild axle conversion pretty hard and why leaf springs instead of coil? I would think sticking with a four link would be easier?
The conversion was ...tough... but it was a learning experience. It STILL IS. We're still working on getting it rolling with the new Toy axles. (Waiting on OTT)
When you have buddies who have the right tools and will work for pizza and beer or backsies (we work on THEIR truck too) the conversion is a lot of fun for everyone.
As for leaf springs instead of coils, it was easier for us to go that way. Imagine just putting spring hangers on the front and rear, and hanging leafs. .. Versus trying to create control arms and links for a coil suspension. Needing to know all the geometry, trial and error, lengths.. etc. Plus, for us, leaf springs was the cheaper choice, and the quickest to be able to be thrown together in a short amount of time. I'm sure some people will disagree with me, but having had NO experience, the idea of going coil and a link suspension was a little daunting compared to the leaf setup.
:)
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;) Guess I need to find a good pic of your truck and put it under "Various Pics of other trucks" eh?
Eh. ;D ;) 8)
(http://img196.exs.cx/img196/6246/upabigstep2small7pq.th.jpg) (http://img196.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img196&image=upabigstep2small7pq.jpg)
It occurs to me that a lot of my Moab pics were taken by YOU! And yes, I AM thankful!
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Eh. ;D ;) 8)
([url]http://img196.exs.cx/img196/6246/upabigstep2small7pq.th.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://img196.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img196&image=upabigstep2small7pq.jpg[/url])
It occurs to me that a lot of my Moab pics were taken by YOU! And yes, I AM thankful!
Bob, do you have ANYwhere where you have your specs located?
Bob, BTW: http://www.granitepath.com/friends/kd7hcg/indepth/index.htm
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Bob, do you have ANYwhere where you have your specs located?
Let's see...
1995 Suzuki JX with a 1.6L 16 Valve engine.
- Calmini Front Winch Bumper
- Calmini Rear Swing-Away Tire Carrier Bumper
- Calmini 6" suspension/body lift
- Calmini Steering Stabilizer and Truss
- Calmini Full Belly Armor
- Calmini Anvil Axle Housing
- Calmini 5.83:1 Ring & Pinions
- Calmini 4.24:1 Transfer Case Gears
- Calmini Performance Exhaust System
- Calmini Performance Sport Cage
- Centerforce Clutch
- Warn M6000 Winch
- Warn Premium Hubs
- Warn Hub Fuses
- ARB Air Lockers - Front & Rear
- ARB Compressor
- Safari Snorkel
- Spidertrax Custom Rock Sliders
- Rockstomper Synthetic Winch Line
- Between 10 and 20 Solid Brass Bells
- K&N Air Filter
- Heather's Bikini
- Pioneer Premium CD Player
- Infinity Reference Speakers
- 15X8 Steel wheels with 2-3/4" Backspacing
- Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's 31 X 10.50
- Padded headrests from my 1995 Suzuki Sidekick JLX 4-door
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Let's see...
1995 Suzuki JX with a 1.6L 16 Valve engine.
- Calmini Front Winch Bumper
- Calmini Rear Swing-Away Tire Carrier Bumper
- Calmini 6" suspension/body lift
- Calmini Steering Stabilizer and Truss
- Calmini Full Belly Armor
- Calmini Anvil Axle Housing
- Calmini 5.83:1 Ring & Pinions
- Calmini 4.24:1 Transfer Case Gears
- Calmini Performance Exhaust System
- Calmini Performance Sport Cage
- Centerforce Clutch
- Warn M6000 Winch
- Warn Premium Hubs
- Warn Hub Fuses
- ARB Air Lockers - Front & Rear
- ARB Compressor
- Safari Snorkel
- Spidertrax Custom Rock Sliders
- Rockstomper Synthetic Winch Line
- Between 10 and 20 Solid Brass Bells
- K&N Air Filter
- Heather's Bikini
- Pioneer Premium CD Player
- Infinity Reference Speakers
- 15X8 Steel wheels with 2-3/4" Backspacing
- Goodyear Wrangler MT/R's 31 X 10.50
- Padded headrests from my 1995 Suzuki Sidekick JLX 4-door
Kewl, Updated.
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Kewl, Updated.
You ROCK! Thanks girly girl! And looking at the pics, WOW is my hair a lot longer than last year at EJS!
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You ROCK! Thanks girly girl! And looking at the pics, WOW is my hair a lot longer than last year at EJS!
No Prob, anytime you have a change or want me to put more pics out there, send me the info!
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The conversion was ...tough... but it was a learning experience. It STILL IS. We're still working on getting it rolling with the new Toy axles.  (Waiting on OTT)
:)
Waiting on OTT?
I thought you already had a T-case done?
Problems?
Do tell, don't be shy. ;D
Inquiring minds need to know ;D
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Waiting on OTT?
I thought you already had a T-case done?
Problems?
Do tell, don't be shy. ;D
Inquiring minds need to know ;D
Nah, waiting on FJ80 steering.
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Holy crap I was just reading. Is it true sidekick sports have 5.12 gears in them? That is crazy i put 5.13 in my bronco and that is considerd pretty damn low for a v8 rig. What is the normal gear ratio in sidekicks?
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That is normal gear ratio ;) 5.12 stock gearing for 5 speed Kicks. Our t-case's and Trans are not as low though.
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So techinaly speaking wouldn't regearing the tranmission with lower gears or the t case, and keep the axles stock be stronger. Because the lower the gears go the weaker they get due to small pinon. So instead of regearing axles wouldn't a t case regear be stronger since they already have low gears?
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There is no product on the market for re-gearing the high range (which is 1:1) on a Track/Kick. You can re-gear LOW range, from 1.8:1 down to 4.24:1 - this is GREAT. But with bigger tires, for better highway performance, regearing the diff's is the only option - so 5.83:1 it is!
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So there transfer case is not like the sammy were you can get twin cases or have a low 2 wheel kit?
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Well, You CAN put in 2 transfer cases, and you CAN get a 2-lo for the Sidekick transfer case but it's not like on a sammi, where lowering the lo range also lowers the hi range. You can put a Sammi tcase behind the Kick - Nate & Heather have 2 tcases, and adapters from OTT.
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Has anyone ever put a atlas 2 on a sidekick? I run a 4.1 altas 2 on my bronco and you can pretty much get any hi range or low range you want. That is some good info though on the transfer case gearing. I keep learning new things about these everyday. Makes me love me sidekick even more. : :)
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Isn't that a divorced T-case set up? If so I dont see why you could not fab up something to work :-/ But I have not heard of one in a kick before.
Zig
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no atlas can work as a divorced or mated. They make adpoters for all kinds of vehicles. I just don't know if they do for suzuki.
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Well Thankyou for all the information and advice. I think i have decied which way to go on my suzuki. I know most of you guys will mock me for my decesion. But I am going to put 20 inch rims on and modify the calmini lowering kit to fit my sport. I also talked with regulate in utah about getting a turbo. I'm also going to have the head ported and polished and the blocked bored out. I know this is not the way 99% of you would go but i need something that i can drive 100 miles a day and be comfy and get good fuel mileage. I already have two vehicles for off road. In fact one that is only good off road for it is to tall and get 6mpg. I will post pictures as i go. So while you guys are taking on the jeeps. I'll show the hondas how suzukis do it. let me know what you guys think or if you have any idea?
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Oh i'll also be in moab this easter safier. But not in my sidekick. I would love to see some off your suzuki rigs and see how they do. Do you guys usaully have a zuk run or something. And if so would you let a Ford come along for the ride to see how well the zuks work off road? ???
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Check out the Zukfari 05 section for details on the rides, dinner, etc....
Zig
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Hi can you help me, I from to Guatemala and I Buy SIDEKICK SPORT 1.8 and dont find the front bumper cover, only with the dealer, but is so spensive, can you tell me if I can buy in other place to small price?
Thanks, sorry for my Englis...
YOU ARE NOT ALONE!!!  I too have a '98 sport with the 1.8 and made my own 2" exhaust with a Flowmaster muffler.  I put in 2" spring spacers, longer rear shocks, flipped the strut mount and am running 265x16's.  I was told that the 1.8 exhaust manifold is fairly similar to a header and so no one made a header for it.  Actually there are some parts that fit the regular 1.6 kick that will fit the 1.8.  Take your exhaust manifold gasket and have it traced onto a CNC machine and you should be able to have a turbo manifold made.  HTH  Good luck!  8)
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Hi can you help me, I from to Guatemala and I Buy SIDEKICK SPORT 1.8 and dont find the front bumper cover, only with the dealer, but is so spensive, can you tell me if I can buy in other place to small price?
Thanks, sorry for my Englis...
Don't apologize for your English. Most of us here in the US can't speak anything else, except possibly pig latin. ;D You have more language skills than most of us.
The best place to find parts is in a junk yard. The Sport model might not be very common where you are, though, so finding one might be difficult. If you are handy with a welder, or know someone who is, you can make a custom bumper that is better than the original. If I had the time, that is what I would do. Then I could sell you mine, but shipping would probably be as bad as buying from the dealer.
BTW, you would probably get more responses if you start a new thread with your question.
Good luck.