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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: timmy0321 on August 22, 2006, 05:53:13 PM
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whats up everyone,
I have been working on my 87` samurai and want to put a 1.6 head on my 1.3 block... Can that be done or is it better to just drop the whole 1.6L in with the EFI. Also I have a new cam and headers for my 1.3 and was wondering if I put the 1.6L head in will the can and header fit? Hope for some help here... any other tips will be greatly appriciated. aloha from hawaii
timmy
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i know some guy's that used a 1,3 top on the 1,6, so it should go the other way also.
but a 1,6 is a more potent engine, dont know if the exhaust fit
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1.6 header fits a 1.3 and visa versa...heads are the same way...you will have less low end torque with a 1.6 head, but better top end... a 1.3 head on a 1.6 gives you better low end torque, worse top end speed... cam should fit, not 100%.
Taylor
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your better off putting in either a swift gt motor or the 1.6l motor
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your better off putting in either a swift gt motor or the 1.6l motor
keep in mind that the 1,6 engine is 1" taller than the 1,3. ;)
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also don't forget that the 1.3 head has the fuel pump in it, and the 1.6 does not. So, you'll be needing a new fuel pump of some sort.
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heres a link to a guy who swapped in the swift gt motor(1.3l DOHC) into a sammi....
http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=19766
and heres one of a guy who did the 1.3l head swap on a 1.6l block and dropped it in a sammi...
http://www.xfaktor.net/Projects/Suzuki/1600dohc/1600dohc.html
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Headers will bolt on but the 1.6 has bigger ports than a 1.3 so you may lose some of the benefit. 1.3 camshaft may not fit a 1.6, there is a difference in length between some models, even if it does you need to check that there will be a performance gain over the stock 1.6 cam. The 1.3 carb is very restrictive on a stock 1.3 so you may not get any big performance gains without changing to a bigger carb, 1.6 inlet and manifold also has bigger ports.
UK carb model 1.6s have a fuel pump on the head ;D
James
(Currently fitting a 1.6 into an SJ413K)
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I'm doing the 1.6 8V with the 1.3 head and intake in my rig as soon as:
#1. my current motor dies (which that's probably not likely..lol)
#2. the summer wheeling seasion is over
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plan on swapping in the 16v pistons from a 1.6l 16v into the 8v block if the 1.3l head is 16v
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http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=10938
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[url]http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=10938[/url]
G13BB engine is the same as the Jimny, with the EFI it makes 80bhp - same as a 1.6 8V. Downside is that it is higher revving with less torque and max torque around 1000rpm further up the rev range. G13BB head on a 1.6 should be pretty good, I'd like to that to the Jimny eventually but the stock engine only has around 30k on it.
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[url]http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=10938[/url]
G13BB engine is the same as the Jimny, with the EFI it makes 80bhp - same as a 1.6 8V. Downside is that it is higher revving with less torque and max torque around 1000rpm further up the rev range. G13BB head on a 1.6 should be pretty good, I'd like to that to the Jimny eventually but the stock engine only has around 30k on it.
that sounds like it whould be a badass Jimny! ;D
i think it's sad there is so little jimny talk here :'(
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[url]http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=10938[/url]
G13BB engine is the same as the Jimny, with the EFI it makes 80bhp - same as a 1.6 8V. Downside is that it is higher revving with less torque and max torque around 1000rpm further up the rev range. G13BB head on a 1.6 should be pretty good, I'd like to that to the Jimny eventually but the stock engine only has around 30k on it.
a stock G13B makes 100hp not 80. putting the G13B head on a 1.6l 16v block will give it more torque, turbo it will make it a torque monster!
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[url]http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=10938[/url]
G13BB engine is the same as the Jimny, with the EFI it makes 80bhp - same as a 1.6 8V. Downside is that it is higher revving with less torque and max torque around 1000rpm further up the rev range. G13BB head on a 1.6 should be pretty good, I'd like to that to the Jimny eventually but the stock engine only has around 30k on it.
that sounds like it whould be a badass Jimny! ;D
i think it's sad there is so little jimny talk here :'(
Thats cause CSR killed Suzui america. :P
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:-[ what's CSR? :-[
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The Enemy >:(
The Mag that lied about easy Samurai rollovers
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[url]http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=10938[/url]
G13BB engine is the same as the Jimny, with the EFI it makes 80bhp - same as a 1.6 8V. Downside is that it is higher revving with less torque and max torque around 1000rpm further up the rev range. G13BB head on a 1.6 should be pretty good, I'd like to that to the Jimny eventually but the stock engine only has around 30k on it.
a stock G13B makes 100hp not 80. putting the G13B head on a 1.6l 16v block will give it more torque, turbo it will make it a torque monster!
If you follow the link, the last post is talking about the G13BB engine
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The heads do interchange, including the cams.
The stock 1.6 cam is a good upgrade for the 1.3, with about 10 degrees more duration, and .5mm more lift.
The 1.6 head has bigger valves. .5mm int/2.5mm exh.
Its a good idea if you are looking for more power.
If you can, resurface it for more compression, .5-1mm.