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Title: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Cowan123c on January 25, 2005, 10:51:03 AM
My buddy has a 87 Samurai 4cyl. It needs a new motor  Since I am new ??? to the suzuki I was needing some help.   He is thiking about the sidekick 1.6 liter.  Is there a place u can get them?  How much do they run?  Also I was wondering if you can put the 1.3 intake and carb on the sidekick 1.6? So he  dont have to mess with the ECM.  What else is involved in the motor swap?  Any brackets u have to buy?  Tranny bolt up?  Please Replie he needs some information and doesnt want to spend to much money on it
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: CrazyCooter on January 25, 2005, 12:03:16 PM
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Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: real_red_wagon on January 25, 2005, 12:19:13 PM
    I've got a 1.6 16valve, wire harness, and computer for sale in the garage sale right now ;D I'm asking $650 for all I can also get you an adapter plate for the trans.
   
     you'll either need a track/sidekick gas tank with fuel pump, or you'll need to run an external electric pump. as for motor mounts I don't remeber if you can use the 1.6 ones or not. I'm not a sammi guy :-/  but I think you either have to be spoa or run a different oil pan as well.
    If your intrested in the mill and other stuff let me know ;D
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Cwkick on January 25, 2005, 01:34:24 PM
You might also consider a Volkswagon Diesel engine.  

Welcome to the board!

Cwkick
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: HotRod on January 25, 2005, 01:57:00 PM
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Relax, He's new, Takes time to get to know your way around. ;D
Welcome aboard. Can't help ya much on the Sammie Questions.
I'm a SideKicker kind of guy ;D
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: ebewley on January 26, 2005, 12:49:15 AM
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My buddy has a 87 Samurai 4cyl. It needs a new motor  Since I am new ??? to the suzuki I was needing some help.   He is thiking about the sidekick 1.6 liter.  Is there a place u can get them?  How much do they run?  Also I was wondering if you can put the 1.3 intake and carb on the sidekick 1.6? So he  dont have to mess with the ECM.  What else is involved in the motor swap?  Any brackets u have to buy?  Tranny bolt up?  Please Replie he needs some information and doesnt want to spend to much money on it



This project:

http://www.zukiworld.com/month_020103/feature_gijane.htm

Uses a 1.6 8-valve out of a Sidekick. The complete intake and exhaust from the 1.3 bolts up and works fine. You're sacrificing a little power out of the 1.6 but it'll still stomp the 1.3 you had in there. All that is needed is the 1.6 donor long block and an adapter kit which may be purchased at one of the many fine sponsor we have here at ZUKIWORLD.

HTH, -Eric
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: techie on January 26, 2005, 02:38:02 AM
I just finished a swap, purchasing a 1.6L Swap Kit is the way to go for the motor. This will hook up your new motor to the Sami tranny and give you the proper motor mounting, instructions should come with it. If you have the $ I'd check out and buy the 1.6L harness from Trail Tough and keep the fuel injection. I did the wiring without the Trail Tough harness and it is a challenge and will test your hampster and patients but it is doable. Will need both the Sami and Kick Service Manuals though.

If you stay with the FI there are a few things that you may run into. But I, with help from others here, have just solved all of those problems so there is help within the forum.

Cheers
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Natebert on January 26, 2005, 03:07:49 AM
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My buddy has a 87 Samurai 4cyl. It needs a new motor  Since I am new ??? to the suzuki I was needing some help.   He is thiking about the sidekick 1.6 liter.  Is there a place u can get them?  How much do they run?  Also I was wondering if you can put the 1.3 intake and carb on the sidekick 1.6? So he  dont have to mess with the ECM.  What else is involved in the motor swap?  Any brackets u have to buy?  Tranny bolt up?  Please Replie he needs some information and doesnt want to spend to much money on it



Buy the tranny adapter kit and you'll be set!

~Nate
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Real_Red_Sammi on January 26, 2005, 04:25:35 AM
     I swapped a 1.6L into my sammi, and I was able to use the same computer and intake like you stated, but mine is a 91' so it had the trottle body intake on there already so it mad it easier. As far as i'm concerned I don't know how much, if any power I lost, But it still blows the doors off of a 1.3L. You will also need the tranny adapter, And modified motor mount, Then your ready to Make It Hert!
   LMS!!!
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: jasonlemon on July 13, 2009, 03:17:06 PM
I am still lost. I have the 1.6 8 valve. I have tried using the metal parts of the motor mounts from the 1.6 and the 1.3 and also used the 318 mounts. I can't get them to work at all. Someone PLEASE tell me what ones i need to use to make this work. Jason
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: bcurtis on October 26, 2009, 07:15:50 PM
i have a 88 suzuki and i have a 96 tracker motor 1.6 16 valve fuel injected with wiring harness and computer.how hard is this goin to be  to wire up
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Drone637 on October 26, 2009, 11:54:56 PM
There are a few write-ups out there.  Make sure you get a copy of your wiring schematics before you start tearing it apart.

The easy method is to give one of the after market companies, such as Trail Tough, a call and send them your two harnesses.  They can do all the splicing and send it back to you.  You might also try Liberty Overland as they have been known to do pretty solid work.
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: sammypro.com on October 27, 2009, 12:16:23 PM
    I swapped a 1.6L into my sammi, and I was able to use the same computer and intake like you stated, but mine is a 91' so it had the trottle body intake on there already so it mad it easier. As far as i'm concerned I don't know how much, if any power I lost, But it still blows the doors off of a 1.3L. You will also need the tranny adapter, And modified motor mount, Then your ready to Make It Hert!
    LMS!!!

Blowin doors off huh, those sound like racing words. LOL. As long as your NA I'll take the "pepsi challenge".
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: ebewley on October 27, 2009, 03:00:30 PM
    I swapped a 1.6L into my sammi, and I was able to use the same computer and intake like you stated, but mine is a 91' so it had the trottle body intake on there already so it mad it easier. As far as i'm concerned I don't know how much, if any power I lost, But it still blows the doors off of a 1.3L. You will also need the tranny adapter, And modified motor mount, Then your ready to Make It Hert!
    LMS!!!

Blowin doors off huh, those sound like racing words. LOL. As long as your NA I'll take the "pepsi challenge".

Door blowin? Sounds nasty... :) I'm in on a race? Who's racing? What are we racing?  ;)

-Eric
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: sammypro.com on October 27, 2009, 03:25:32 PM
I knew this would get fun!!!!!!! 8)
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: bcurtis on October 27, 2009, 05:02:10 PM
does any one no if they make a adapter plate for a 78 nissan 4 cylinder motor to adapt to a suzuki transmission
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: jasonlemon on October 31, 2009, 02:32:00 PM
what intake gasket do you use? the  sammy or the tracker? they ARE different gaskets.
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Drone637 on October 31, 2009, 03:34:32 PM
You would have to adapt the Nissan intake to work with your existing fuel system.  I don't think the Sammy 1.3 intake is going to be a direct bolt up.  :)

No idea on the adapter plate, but I doubt it.  You would probably be better off using a Nissan 2wd transmission and using a modified jack shaft to go into the transfer case.
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: Bigzook on November 01, 2009, 06:23:25 PM
oooh race?  As some of you know, I never run my motor hard.
Title: Re: Samurai Motor Swap
Post by: dupont#24 on November 01, 2009, 07:32:50 PM
if you decide to go with the 1.6 8valve I have a 94 harness and computer for sale I don't know how many models this will work on .175.00 for both.If you want to stay fuel injection