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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Chief on January 16, 2005, 11:39:27 AM
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ANyone everythink of inboarding the rear coils?
I'm thinking of fabbing an upper mount right on the bottom of the frame, with a mount right below it on the axle. This would prolly give you about 3" of lift, maybe a bit more.
Anyone try this? Good idea/bad idea? I got some ideas to pull off a bolt on type of thing! ;D
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ya rite now , not using stock springs, but it will give you lift w /stockers not shur how much thow.
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ya rite now , not using stock springs, but it will give you lift w /stockers not shur how much thow.
Got any pics? THis a work in progress or are you done?
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work in progress , i got the trailing arm mounts on my toy axel and put it in place and am going to have to remount the trailing arms on the frame making them longer. with the lift the arch of the lower arms is a problem . :-/
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Inboarding will make your roll more
pronounced, don't do too much permanent
welding until you check it out in a road test
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Watch to make sure your lines are ok. e-brake and such, yeah, watch for body roll too. maybe just scrap the whole thing, slap a 5 link on that biotc, notch the frame and aim for a foot of travel or more. Prolly not the best for rock crawling but it'd be fun in the dunes. ;D
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Inboarding will make your roll more
pronounced, don't do too much permanent
welding until you check it out in a road test
Yea, gonna try and compensate with stiffer shocks. Maybe get a stabilizer bar? ::)
And it won't be permanent welded in. Should be able to make up a bolt on type of thing! :o
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Watch to make sure your lines are ok. e-brake and such, yeah, watch for body roll too. maybe just scrap the whole thing, slap a 5 link on that biotc, notch the frame and aim for a foot of travel or more. Prolly not the best for rock crawling but it'd be fun in the dunes.  ;D
What e-brakes?? ???
;D
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I"m on glue, don't mind me I wrote that late last night thinking that the ebrake cable runs through there. ???
He he, my bad.
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Yea, gonna try and compensate with stiffer shocks. Maybe get a stabilizer bar? ::)
And it won't be permanent welded in. Should be able to make up a bolt on type of thing! :o
How are you going to make the spring cup deals on the axle bolt-on? :o
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How are you going to make the spring cup deals on the axle bolt-on? :o
Lemme try and see if it works before I say what and people call me stooopid! ;D
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Once again, why are you doing this? I all ways thought you wanted the spring out as far as posible for stability?
Is it only for height?
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Once again, why are you doing this?  I all ways thought you wanted the spring out as far as posible for stability?
Is it only for height? ÂÂ
Not for height, Just trying something different for some more flex in the rear. If it drives like sh*t, handles like sh*t, just plain is SH*T, I'll go back to stock. I have no plans on cutting off the stock stuff.
And what's up with the once again?? Did you ask this before?
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I've seen this done on a coiled Sammi - the axle bent :o, several times  :o :o.
Hey - 500 posts!!!!
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I was just trying to figure it out in my mine. So "once again" I was trying to figure it out.
What shocks are you running? Those are your first limiting factors. Once you have long enof shocks to where your spring are loose then your springs are your limiting factor.
But,
I have a set of Ford F-150 4x4 shocks on mine. Calimni 3" springs set to where their loose and I don't think I'd want any more drop. I/we have a slip yoke, and any more drop and I'd be worried about the drive shaft coming out to far.
Flexing over rock and such would not be a problem, but hitting a jump at 20-30 mph and getting a little air, the whole rear end cycles down and ???
Also, I remember Mike stating once that at one time he had too much articulation in the rear for the front IFS. It was unstable.
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I was just trying to figure it out in my mine.  So "once again" I was trying to figure it out.
What shocks are you running?  Those are your first limiting factors.  Once you have long enof shocks to where your spring are loose then your springs are your limiting factor.
But,
I have a set of Ford F-150 4x4 shocks on mine.  Calimni 3" springs set to where their loose and I don't think I'd want any more drop.  I/we have a slip yoke, and any more drop and I'd be worried about the drive shaft coming out to far. ÂÂ
Flexing over rock and such would not be a problem, but hitting a jump at 20-30 mph and getting a little air, the whole rear end cycles down and ???
Also, I remember Mike stating once that at one time he had too much articulation in the rear for the front IFS.  It was unstable.
All good points, and reasons I'm keeping all the stock stuff around. Just trying something a little different. If it works, great! If it f***s up, just bolt everything back in the stock location.
W/ a 2" spacer, I've already maxed my rear end. If I got the XJ coils to work how I liked it, I would have had a 28" uncompressed shock maxed out.
Bent a sammi rear end w/ coils? Where you jumping it? and this is a tracker axle, figure they are different, since trackers come with coils stock.
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I'm all for trying things.
Good luck and let us know.
We've talked about the center diff. on this board. I once cut up a rear axil to see how it would fit cented. It was too big, even the motor lifted 4". Still not a dead thought though.
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Bent a sammi rear end w/ coils? Where you jumping it? and this is a tracker axle, figure they are different, since trackers come with coils stock.
Not my truck so I don't know how it was being driven. The Tracker axle is stronger but then again the Tracker is heavier too. The Tracker has coils as stock but moving them in leaves more of the axle unsupported. Might not be a problem at all, I just thought it was worth mentioning. It would be a bit of a downer to make everything replaceable and then trash the axle - be the sort of thing that happens to me ::)
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Not my truck so I don't know how it was being driven. The Tracker axle is stronger but then again the Tracker is heavier too. The Tracker has coils as stock but moving them in leaves more of the axle unsupported. Might not be a problem at all, I just thought it was worth mentioning. It would be a bit of a downer to make everything replaceable and then trash the axle - be the sort of thing that happens to me  ::)
LOL true true. I got a yard with about 4-5 trackers sittin in it right now, so I can pick up rear axles realitivly cheap. Worse comes to worse, I'll steal the one out of my GF's tracker! ;D