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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: 3wheelerdude on January 13, 2005, 01:45:34 PM
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What should the RPMs indicate when going 100km/h (or 60 m/h) in fifth gear, on a 1.6 sidekick. (no mods)
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check your tach, its beside the speedo in the gauges, it'll tell you
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about 3500 rpm's.
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I know, but I find mine is pretty high and I just got the truck so i would like to make sure its normal. Mine reads about 3500. How ddoes that sound??
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about 3500 rpm's.
Thank you!!!!!!! I shall forever thank you for reassuring me. Someone on another forum told me it should be 2600........thats why i was kinda freaking out.
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There's to many variables to give you a correct answer to your question to change anyone of the variables can change the answer to the question. What gears are you running in the tranny, in the rear end, what size tires are you running. You change each, any one or all of these factors and you can get a differant answer.
A good case in point an number of years ago I drove for a company in Eastern Washington we had two trucks they were Identical in very respect the only difference was the Serial Number and that was by one number they came off the assembly line one behind the other and were delivered to the same company one would out run the other every time it was given.
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alright, sorry if my question was a bit LARGE, but it still feels good to know that im not the only one who runs high RPMs at 100km/h.
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With 5.83 gears and 33" tires
I'm pulling about 4300-4400
RPM at 70 MPH (about 110 Kmh)
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when i do my drive on the highway everyweekend, i do about 100 kmh |removethispart|@ around 3400 rpm
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don't be afraid to take a 1.6 to to 6000RPM+. very strong engine. i have over heated mine many times and it still won't blow.
stu
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don't be afraid to take a 1.6 to to 6000RPM+.  very strong engine.  i have over heated mine many times and it still won't blow.
stu
6 grand? thats pretty high, anyone else do this?
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6 grand? thats pretty high, anyone else do this?
We hit 5500 every time we take it up to 75mph.
We've run this way for hours at a time.
I've seen it hit 6500 no problems.
~Nate
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hm, thats good to know, thanks! :)
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You might be talking about two diffrent engines also, the 16 valve and the eight valve are a little bit diffrent on the top ends and the bottom ends. I think my 16 valve shuts down at 6500 by the ecm.
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I hit 6000 in first and second, but by
the time I'm to 6000 in third I'm going
over 100 MPH
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Running an engine at high rpm’s for extended periods of time will result in decreased fuel efficiency and increased wear on engine components. Tell ing someone to go ahead and run your engine at 6g's for hours isn't the best advice... Drive it like there's an egg under your foot!
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I run 4500 at 70-75mph on my 98 Tracker with a 1.6 and auto trans. Standard gears and transfer case.
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Running an engine at high rpm’s for extended periods of time will result in decreased fuel efficiency and increased wear on engine components. Tell ing someone to go ahead and run your engine at 6g's for hours isn't the best advice... Drive it like there's an egg under your foot!
Well yah!
(but these motors have no trouble running higher RPMs)
~Nate
P.S. Doesn't Mike always quote "Redline all the Time!"
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don't be afraid to take a 1.6 to to 6000RPM+.  very strong engine.  i have over heated mine many times and it still won't blow.
stu
You must have an 8V, I've known a good few people with 16Vs that have suffered cracked heads and blocks.
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You must have an 8V, I've known a good few people with 16Vs that have suffered cracked heads and blocks.
yup. i could see a head cracking/warping but why the block? arn't they the same from 8V to 16V?
stu
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yup.  i could see a head cracking/warping but why the block?  arn't they the same from 8V to 16V?
stu
I believe so it probably because the 16V makes around 18% more power so theres a lot more heat and stress. I' just guessing though - I've just never heard of it happening to an 8V
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I hit 6000 in first and second, but by
the time I'm to 6000 in third I'm going
over 100 MPH
thats cuz u got a turbo ;D
wish i had one
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I'll rev 6000 to 6500 with my 1.6 8v Make It Hert!!!
LMS!!!
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You must have an 8V, I've known a good few people with 16Vs that have suffered cracked heads and blocks.
That's odd. I run my 16's to 5500 ALL the time, and 6000 fairly often, and have had no problems.
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These engines are made for the high RPM's, stock from the factory.
I remember when the Chevets came out with their 4 cyl. People thought that they were asking to much out of the 4 cyl. and they would never last.
I've know people with over 300,000 miles on them and they keep going.
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Running an engine at high rpm’s for extended periods of time will result in decreased fuel efficiency and increased wear on engine components. Tell ing someone to go ahead and run your engine at 6g's for hours isn't the best advice... Drive it like there's an egg under your foot!
...And don't swim for three hours after you eat either ;D
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And one more thing too that no one mentioned yet. It's gas milage. Now, I have a newer 2.0 16v, but I found that if I go light on the throttle and short shift it ( before 3,000 rpms, it'll only get 24 or 25 mpg. Now if I still go easy on the throttle and run it up to 3500 to 4000 rpms, and every time I hit a good sized hill drop it down a gear also to just let the motor rev I'll get 28. It likes to rev, not lug, now, I don't know about the 1.8's but anything below 2000 rpms it feels like it's lugging, and just doesn't want to be there, even the tranny groans until I downshift. Oh well, anyway , just my .02 ;D
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And one more thing too that no one mentioned yet.  It's gas milage.  Now, I have a newer 2.0 16v, but I found that if I go light on the throttle and short shift it ( before 3,000 rpms, it'll only get 24 or 25 mpg.  Now if I still go easy on the throttle and run it up to 3500 to 4000 rpms, and every time I hit a good sized hill drop it down a gear also to just let the motor rev I'll get 28.  It likes to rev, not lug, now, I don't know about the 1.8's but anything below 2000 rpms it feels like it's lugging, and just doesn't want to be there, even the tranny groans until I downshift.   Oh well, anyway , just my .02 ;D
i noticed this this weekend in my 8 valve, i would rev the engine higher when i was driving and i noticed better fuel milage
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Your best fuel milage is going
to be at the peak torque RPM
These engines have a high RPM
peak torque band.
94 foot pounds |removethispart|@ 3000 RPM
80 HP |removethispart|@ 5400 RPM
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so which would be the best rpm to shift at for fuel milage reasons?
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I personally shift at around 3500 rpm.  3000 is a little too low, 4000 is a little high unless I'm climbing a hill.  One this is for certain, at least for the 2.0 is that it doesn't come alive until you hit 3000 rpm, after that it pulls real strong, right on up to 5500 to 6000 rpm easy.  (I still don't visit the 6500 rpm red line that much.  ;D  HTH, Dave
ps. also, I notice that the gear ratios are a bit diffrent going from gear to gear. There is a 2000 rom drop going from first to second (if I shift at 4000 rpm second is at 2000 rpm.) but 2nd to 3rd and 3rd to 4th have aournd a 1000 rpm difrence. then 4th to 5th it's about a 500 rpm diffrence. Don't know how th eolder trannies are. This is a bit of a diffrence from my 90 Trooper when the big jump ratio wise was going from 2nd to 3rd instead of 1st to 2nd like on my Tracker. Have fun, Dave ;D