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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Baloo on January 12, 2005, 04:02:23 AM
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??? Hey does anyone have pictures and/or ideas on installing a rear cage to the Cal Mini front cage. I want to cover the rear seats but still be able to use the rag top and a hard top. I'm doing this to a 1990 Tracker. Any info would be helpful pictures are worth a thousand words. Cheers.
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Hmm...
Don't know how well that would work.
As I see it, the top folds back into the exact place you'd want to anchor a rear roll bar.
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Look at some of Hagen's black tracker. You could also remove the rear seatbelt horns and have some more room.
Kevin
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You could also remove the rear seatbelt horns and have some more room.
Even though I've removed the rear seat (for now), I would never remove the rear belts. Yeah, the towers are in the way a bit, but if I put the seat back in, and have a rear passenger, they WILL be belted in!
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I meant to remove the towers and then after the cage bolt the uppermount to the cage :-/ just to give more
room for base plates
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??? Hey does anyone have pictures and/or ideas on installing a rear cage to the Cal Mini front cage. I want to cover the rear seats but still be able to use the rag top and a hard top. I'm doing this to a 1990 Tracker. Any info would be helpful pictures are worth a thousand words. Cheers.
Ive never done one but I could and let ya know. anyone near socal need a rear cage ;D?
Wild???
Anyone
Thanks
Wayne
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Am I going to have to change my
name from Wild to Guinea Pig ;)
I suppose I could pose for a rear roll cage
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Hey Wayne, I need one. I can weld and fab. I just dont have a bender. Now that it stopped raining, have you fixed the elec.?
see ya,
Kevin
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i built this cage but i dont see why you couldnt do the same behind a calmini cage ,i didnt like the idea of bumping my head or nee every time i got in so i removed the dash and ran my tobes along the side of the body as close to the windshield frame as possable then used a 2'' holesaw to cut corner of dash out and put dash back in ,only took 6 hrs from start to finish.
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Looks pretty good there Mr mesjr2004 ;D
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I have been working on and planning to build a full cage for several years now.
Wild,ppltrak, zukizzy looks like we should have a roll cage building party. Who has space. I have a 3 stall garage of which 2 stalls are psudo shop. I could host. I don't have a bender either but was considering one of those harbor freight jobbies.. Yeah I know cheap junk but I don't need a 5K dollar tube shark. I just need to bend some tube..
Does anyone have one of the Harbor Freight Tube benders?
Does it do the job or is it 100 bucks worth of crap?
I also saw that HF had tubing knotchers for like 40 bucks...May come in handy too.
mesjr2004 I like the way you hugged the windsheild on the inside. Looks Kick Ass
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Zukizzy has a little 4000 Sq Ft
shop with all the tubing goodies
and a 2 pole lift, my kind of playground
See the "Wild Doors" post, that's in the shop
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You can still fully use the tops with this set up. Though I have removed my back seat to haul my camping gear you can still fully access the rear by side or rear door and still use the rear seat (with belts). I also opted for the Kick it when you get in lay out in the front. If I did it over I would definately take the front hoop through the dash to get it out of the way, but it is not to bad once you get use to it.
I am getting rid of rear passenger all together to I will make a few changes to the cage before long (cross bars behind seats for harness mounts for one.
HTH,
Zig
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Does anyone have one of the Harbor Freight Tube benders?
Does it do the job or is it 100 bucks worth of crap?
It bends thick tube fine, but I'd be scared bending material thinner than 1/8".
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Hey Wayne, I need one. I can weld and fab. I just dont have a bender. Now that it stopped raining, have you fixed the elec.?
see ya,
Kevin
Not yet this work thing is cramping my play style. Sat I think at least a temp(read above ground) fix ;D
Thanks
Wayne
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I have been working on and planning to build a  full cage for several years now.
Wild,ppltrak, zukizzy  looks like we should have a roll cage building party. Who has space. I have a 3 stall garage of which 2 stalls are psudo shop.  I could host. I don't have a bender either but was considering one of those harbor freight jobbies.. Yeah I know cheap junk but I don't need a 5K dollar tube shark. I just need to bend some tube..
Does anyone have one of the Harbor Freight Tube benders?
Does it do the job or is it 100 bucks worth of crap?
I also saw that HF had tubing knotchers for like 40 bucks...May come in handy too.
mesjr2004 I like the way you hugged the windsheild on the inside. Looks Kick Ass
It is easier to get one rig build a cage then write down the specs. once you build one it is easy to build more if you follow your old plan and you can tweak what you don't like on the next one.
Thanks
Wayne
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Wayne I do have a very good friend who is a licenced electrition(sp) ;DIf you need help just call.
Kevin
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Agreed first one is the toughest and anything after that just get's better.
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Hey Dude, I've seen some of the bends from the H/F bender and you could do better with a torch and a tree. Don't waist your $. I have used one that wasn't hyd. but had different dies for different pipe. It worked great.
kevin
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There a difference between a tub bender and a pipe bender.
Harbor freight is a pipe bender (I think) it pushes up from the center and bends it. It tends to crush the pipe.
A tub bender has a die that the tub is drawn into. Kinda rolls the bend into it. This is what is needed for the cages and why they cost so much.
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i had a harbor freight bender it was junk for tube it does fine on sch 40 pipe thats it. and my cage does not interfear with top. ;)
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Nice setup. What's the elastic netting for? Tying down loads?
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Nice setup.  What's the elastic netting for? Tying down loads?
Yea, I got the netting to hold a cooler in place when riding. It was not strong enough to hold it still in the rough stuff, so I mooved the nett to the roof bar. It works great.I keep that one where it is to hold my camping gear in when driving to/from the trail. and I have another one that hooks to the roll bar to keep all my junk from flying out while reail riding.
Zig
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Well, all this has me prety excited! Guess I'll look at extending my Calmini cage to the back, and putting two more "stringers" front-to-back over the front seat area.
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Wow guys thanks for the input, I have some ideas now. ;D
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Posted by: mesjr2004 Posted on: Jan 12th, 2005, 6:49pm
i built this cage but i dont see why you couldnt do the same behind a calmini cage ,i didnt like the idea of bumping my head or nee every time i got in so i removed the dash and ran my tobes along the side of the body as close to the windshield frame as possable then used a 2'' holesaw to cut corner of dash out and put dash back in ,only took 6 hrs from start to finish.
I like how you kept the cage so tight to the windshield frame. Nice work, That's exactly what I want to do with my cage. Was it difficult to get in place? The struggle I had on the first Geo I built was getting a decent front loop with all the bends to match up to the front geometry.
So if the harbor freight thing is junk. What are the other options? Have you guys seen these deals?
this one you have to practice your fab skills first. Wonder how much you have to invest to build this thing?
Where do you get dies.. Seems like a hassle.
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Shady
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Hanging out under the same Shade tree...
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Interesting. I think I am going to give these guys a call.
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This is the HF equivalent which =junk
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That one you want to call on
is the same as Zukizzy has
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the bender i used was old, i borrowed it from a friend, the bender im gona buy is a m-teck . m-tecksuppily.com
it was verry tite between the kick pannel and wear the fusebox,and computer is mounted.i had to take all that stuff loose to get tobes in. but with anny mecanical skill it shouldnt be too hard.,
thanks for all the compliments guys,i try to do a good job on stuff but still a little self conscious about my work.
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That one you want to call on
is the same as Zukizzy has
I use a JD2 (squared) model 3. it is a good quality bender at entry level prices and the hyd kit is easy to buy and install or just fab from parts. ;D I don't have hyd yet but soon. One reason I use this bender is that there are 3 in walking distance from my shop and we all share the odd dies. I own 1.25 1.5 and 1.75. but have access to 1" 1.625" and 2" within a block plus different radius in the sizes I own.
Pro tools has a similar one that you can buy from rockbuggy supply in corona ca. they are so similar that it was a tossup between the 2 only my buddies haveing JD2 made the difference.
HTH
Wayne