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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: Riverrat on January 14, 2005, 01:02:45 AM
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OK!! I am old & stupid!!
Will someone please inform me the best & easiest way to disable this feature???? I live in a rural area & still able enough to know when to switch lites on!
Thanks!! ???
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When stopped you can turn off the headlights by pulling up slightly on the emergency brake. I have had a car with them and found that you do get used to them after awhile.
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Thanks Keith!!
When I posted I should have said I have tried that one & it does work, except the PB. lite stays on! However that is what I may end up doing, & possibly slack the cable a bit! The terrain here is flat, & I can't remember the last time I used the PB on my cherry 300D. But I do use it a little on my Sami. when off road. I just hate the Safety Police minding my business!
THANKS MAN!
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You could put a "light disable" switch on the dash.
I wonder why you want to turn off your headlights, though - so somebody can't see you while you're sitting in your GV with the engine running?
You're not a stalker are you? ::) :o ???
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He drivers the get away car and doesn't want to be spoted ;) ;D
By the way there is a relay under the dash that you can pull but doing so kills the brake idiot light.
I will try and find the info for you.
George
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Was thinking of doing this before I got involed in an accident. One of the first things the State tropper did (That blew my mind! :o) was ask the year of our vehicles.
He them pulled out what looked like a OBDII tester and checked (I'm assuming) to see if lightes were on, who applied brakes as opposed to who was still on the gas and if seat belts were being worn. What ever he did I was in the right and the other guy was in the wrong ;).
Both vehicles were obviously set up for offroad by the way maybe that's why he checked us out like that, who knows? :-/
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Well im not sure on the vitara but on some GM vehicles its as easy as pulling the drl fuse out ! had a 97 S10 and thats all i did but becareful i had a 97 pontiac sunfire and i tried that and lost all lights on the left side of the car so i just did the e-brake thing and pulled the dash light out I know on some new GM cars you have to put a jump wire in the drl relay to disable it. Theres a how to on this on a Jbody forum that i am a member of
http://www.jbody.org If you wanna check it out
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Another thing disabling ANY safty feature on a vehicle accourding to my insurance policy automaticaly relieves them of any liability to pay any damages. I deal with USAA.
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Was thinking of doing this before I got involed in an accident. One of the first things the State tropper did (That blew my mind! :o) was ask the year of our vehicles.
He them pulled out what looked like a OBDII tester and checked (I'm assuming) to see if lightes were on, who applied brakes as opposed to who was still on the gas and if seat belts were being worn. What ever he did I was in the right and the other guy was in the wrong ;).
Both vehicles were obviously set up for offroad by the way maybe that's why he checked us out like that, who knows? :-/
In america Daytime Running lights are not required YET as they are in canada so i think you would've been ok.
GM just installes them in all vehicles (since 1996) to exceed safty standards although there is talk about making them manditory in the US b/c of the proven safty issues in canada
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He drivers the get away car and doesn't want to be spoted  ;) ;D
By the way there is a relay under the dash that you can pull but doing so kills the brake idiot light. ÂÂ
I will try and find the info for you.
George
Thanks George!!!!
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In america Daytime Running lights are not required YET as they are in canada so i think you would've been ok.
GM just installes them in all vehicles (since 1996) to exceed safty standards although there is talk about making them manditory in the US b/c of the proven safty issues in canada
But it is still considered a safty feature. That's why you (well I do) get an insurance discount for having it.
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Lights on in the daytime, ehh
just wasting electricity ;)
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But it is still considered a safty feature. That's why you (well I do) get an insurance discount for having it.
True
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In my 98 Tracker I just pulled the pin in the large connector of the steering column. Then I stuck a business card (or my sunglasses) on the instrument panel to cover the light that says they are on.
No mystery, just read the GM FSM for the daytime running lights. Which I was really familiar with after having troubleshot why my newly installed cruise control would only work in the daytime. Not just any switched hot will work (the method of running hot through a device, then switching the ground side is a painful experience).
I wished as much effort was put into teaching people to #$|removethispart|@%%$&%$ drive as there is in making them dependent sheep.
Enjoy!
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Lights on in the daytime, ehh
just wasting electricity  ;)
yea, pretty much, more resistance on the alternator therefor more resistance on the motor. The other thing is that I am already on my third set of headlight bulbs mostly because the freaking lights are on all the time, even when it's warming up.. I now just have the high beams on when I'm warming up my gv so the low beams don't get burned out as fast.. doesn't work if the sun is all the way out though... stupid automatic crap! :P.. at least I have a manual tranny, thank god for that
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Their are 2 different (headlight) things that bug me about these cars and and 2 different ways to deal with them.
DAYTIME RUNNING LIGHTS (DRL): This is only mildly annoying (IMO) and I only care about turning them off every once in a while. Looking at christmas lights, drive in theater's etc. In this case the easiest thing is to leave the parking brake up 1 click so the light is on, BEFORE you start going. If you pull the parking brake up after the DRL have already come on, they won't turn off. If you want something more permanent then you have to get into the wiring and/or pulling fuses. I have 3yrs and 55,000 miles on my tracker and have never burned out a factory headlight yet.
AUTOMATIC LIGHT CONTROL (ALC): This i find very annoying, especially since it comes on anytime it is not really bright out. The easiest solution: pop the ALC sensor out of the dash using a small screw driver or pocket knife and unplug it. ALC will never come on again. This way you also maintain the safety feature of the DRL in case that is ever an issue.
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DRL's are a safety feature, not because
you don't know when to turn on your head
lights, it's to help keep you from becoming
a road pizza on some barren stretch, and
this also protecting your Zuke for future
generations to use and enjoy
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DRL's are just for the lame. If you are out alone on a highway, and someone comes the other way and doesn't see you, DRL's are not going to come to the rescue -- they were going to run you over anyway. And drunks (though less are out in the day time) and tired drivers tend to drive into the light. That's why if you look at Schneider trucking company trailers they have blue and silver reflectors with grids that point down and to the left on the rear of the trailers. That's also why some of the cop car light bars tend to steer you to the left by flashing in a subtle arrow (lights strobe to the left).
On another point, if you are driving in a metro area with all the eye trash out there, what is one more (or two more) lights going to do to get your attention amongst the glare off of car windows, chrome, signs, building windows, etc?
I think that if only a few cars have there lights on, it's great for them, but if everyone has there lights on that it just makes it more difficult to pick out the true condition of what's going on, even to the point of not seeing deer, dogs, and kids. By the way, OBD2 doesn't know if drl is on or not (I suspect that it wont know if the headlights are on either).
More eye trash is not necessarily better eye trash, it just takes your attention from a lot of other things (and may even wash out the subtle but more important details). To illustrate, I was walking in downtown Denver a few years ago. I got to a cross walk and looked both ways. Fortunately I looked again, because I had a street car bearing down on me. It had DRL, but so did the cars, and the glare off of the wires, windows, signs, etc, kept me from noticing it. Could have been smashed to bits and not been here to rail against the sheepherding guboment do gooders!
I think my soapbox broke, but since I don't have any DRL to see by I may be gone a while.... 8)
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im sure that the OBDII does know when your DRLs are on because I have plugged an GMtech II into a 99 tracker and cut the drls on and off with the tech II
anyways this thread is over a year old
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i like to sit in my vitara in the mornig for about 10 min or so before i go into work. the alc is a pain. no one wants to sit parked with the head lights on. also when i go hunt in the mornig its nice to be able to cut them of before i get to close to my stand :-\
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Ok... so, what I'm reading is that nobody actually knows how to disable them? The plug under the steering column isn't an option on the 2004's... I tried it today, and that nice silver box isn't there. There is 1 plug on the side.. it's white with a black tape piece around it... and when you haul that out, the lights stay on no matter what the handbrake is doing, and you lose the door ajar beep, among other things. What I need to know is the actual location of the DRL module. On my '03 Lancer, it was on the inside fender wall behind the drivers side headlight... as seen below... So, if anyone knows the location of this module on an '04 Grand Vitara, please let me know.
Thanks!
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When stopped you can turn off the headlights by pulling up slightly on the emergency brake. I have had a car with them and found that you do get used to them after awhile.
On my Zuk themparking brake switch is also an input to the ECU. I haven't worked out what effect its supposed to do because the wire broke off.