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Title: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ebewley on November 20, 2006, 02:08:07 PM
Trail Slayer" Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Coil Spring Conversion Kit   

Turn your Sidekick / Tracker into a serious off-road machine! 40â€? of articulation and great handling characteristics!  We hate to admit it but these rigs are out-performing the even the “bad boyâ€? Samurai’s.  Because this kit takes advantage of the superior strength of Toyota axles, your Sidekick , Tracker, or X-90 becomes an extremely durable, reliable TRAIL SLAYER!!!

    Price $2795.00

Link to Jason Hoff's Sidekick that is sporting this kit:
http://www.zukiworld.com/month_080106/feature_sas_sidekick_hoff.htm

(http://www.trailtough.com/images/skcoil1145.jpg)
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ZR2 on November 20, 2006, 03:16:00 PM
this kit can fit on 1999 + tracker/vitara ???
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ebewley on November 20, 2006, 03:30:18 PM
this kit can fit on 1999 + tracker/vitara ???

Call them...

-Eric
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: wezzlegod on November 20, 2006, 06:49:24 PM
take me a year to save for yippi better start
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: flexmonger on November 20, 2006, 09:39:37 PM
   You kick owners have been crying for it so long, you best buy it. NOW!! >:D
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: bashzuk on November 20, 2006, 10:51:26 PM
Ok dang now I really want to buy a track/kick. Course you still have to buy an almost 20 year old solid front axle. Is it truely all in one, Jason? And what year axle did you end up using?

BASH
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ZeusZuki on November 20, 2006, 11:28:32 PM
bashzuk,

Not sure about the states but we had the Yota solid axle all the way until 1997. I have a '82 and '97 sitting behind the garage for Ron  ;D ( Later ron  ;) ).

The CV's and axles are the same through out.

ZeusZuki  8)
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: locjaw on November 21, 2006, 08:17:31 AM
Ok dang now I really want to buy a track/kick. Course you still have to buy an almost 20 year old solid front axle. Is it truely all in one, Jason? And what year axle did you end up using?

BASH

it is EVERYTHING you need but the loaded axels and tires. very, very little cutting. it performs like nothing you could immagine, on road and off!

jason
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Bigzook on November 21, 2006, 05:23:27 PM
this kit can fit on 1999 + tracker/vitara ???
Nope, and they are not planning to make one for em. I called a couple weeks ago. ;)
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Digger on November 22, 2006, 05:00:56 PM
it is EVERYTHING you need but the loaded axels and tires. very, very little cutting. it performs like nothing you could immagine, on road and off!

So tell us which yotas to look under at the junkyard for the proper donor axles for this kit...
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Hustler on November 22, 2006, 05:13:55 PM


So tell us which yotas to look under at the junkyard for the proper donor axles for this kit...

pre-86 fourunners and pick ups.  do it.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Digger on November 22, 2006, 06:42:38 PM
They all the same?
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: trailturd on November 22, 2006, 07:50:02 PM
85 has better trussing from the factory. 84 still has some but not as much. I think in 80 they dont have a truss at all. Other than that they are all the same.  All the rears are the same but in 86and up they are 3" wider and have bigger brakes. The 3rds are different in the rear on v6 and turbo toys too.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: locjaw on November 23, 2006, 08:48:37 AM
it is EVERYTHING you need but the loaded axels and tires. very, very little cutting. it performs like nothing you could immagine, on road and off!

So tell us which yotas to look under at the junkyard for the proper donor axles for this kit...

the best front axle is an 84 or 85. the axle in the rear is a 86 or later 4 cyl then there is spacers in the front to make up for the width. i think brent uses the later rear to get the extra width to make everything clear, also for the bigger breaks
jason
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Ddog87 on November 23, 2006, 10:33:42 AM
I have a question, and I am not trying to bash just wondering. I have been reading alot about link suspensions and thought that were the links come together at the crossmember, that there was suppose to be some seperation between the upper and lower links to keep them as paralle(sp) as possible??????  (http://i9.tinypic.com/2nc3xw5.jpg)
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: locjaw on November 23, 2006, 11:31:28 AM
I have a question, and I am not trying to bash just wondering. I have been reading alot about link suspensions and thought that were the links come together at the crossmember, that there was suppose to be some seperation between the upper and lower links to keep them as paralle(sp) as possible??????  ([url]http://i9.tinypic.com/2nc3xw5.jpg[/url])


that would probably be a great question for the designer to answer(especally scense i have no background in suspension design) i'd give brent a call and quiz him.
jason
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: HotRod on November 23, 2006, 12:04:00 PM
It's too bad I gave away my Yota axles last year.
Some things never come to market. :-\
Guess I have to start looking again.
seen some on Craigslist (rolling Yota frame) ;D
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: hickwheeler on November 23, 2006, 07:59:11 PM
I wish I could afford that but maybe i should worry about getting a trackick first lol.  ;D
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: mrfuelish on November 24, 2006, 02:44:58 PM
I have a question, and I am not trying to bash just wondering. I have been reading alot about link suspensions and thought that were the links come together at the crossmember, that there was suppose to be some seperation between the upper and lower links to keep them as paralle(sp) as possible??????  ([url]http://i9.tinypic.com/2nc3xw5.jpg[/url])
   

I would say the word slip yoke comes to mind.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: locjaw on November 24, 2006, 03:56:27 PM
I have a question, and I am not trying to bash just wondering. I have been reading alot about link suspensions and thought that were the links come together at the crossmember, that there was suppose to be some seperation between the upper and lower links to keep them as paralle(sp) as possible??????  ([url]http://i9.tinypic.com/2nc3xw5.jpg[/url])
   

I would say the word slip yoke comes to mind.


the link mounts are in verticle plane with the rear output, thus not allowing more than about 1/2" slip at the output.
jason
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Mayhem on November 26, 2006, 07:41:21 PM
talk about pricy !! Definitley for the mortgage free, no kids ect..

i can't wait to see R.R.O new 6-8" lift but its gotta be pricy tooo

luv tosee a kit that does the basics i.e
         -leaf sprung toy axles w/6-8" lift over stock and
around $1500 bucks

yeah i dream alot!!!!!
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: beercheck on November 27, 2006, 11:00:41 AM
this kit can fit on 1999 + tracker/vitara ???
Nope, and they are not planning to make one for em. I called a couple weeks ago. ;)

Well, crap.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Rhinoman on November 27, 2006, 12:07:16 PM
i can't wait to see R.R.O new 6-8" lift but its gotta be pricy tooo

Yeah, me too. I think I've been waiting to see that for 6 years now.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: bashzuk on November 27, 2006, 03:24:35 PM
LocJaw did Brent mention whether fj 80 axles already set up with coil perches would work?
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ebewley on November 28, 2006, 08:23:20 AM
LocJaw did Brent mention whether fj 80 axles already set up with coil perches would work?

Call Trail Tough! It's toll free...

-Eric
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: bashzuk on November 28, 2006, 12:01:21 PM
Usually I would but my work schedule doesn't permit me during Brent's normal business hours.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Bigzook on November 28, 2006, 03:25:13 PM
Hey Jason if you get time could you take a bunch of pics of the underneath of your kick? Some people on Pirate are wondering a little about the axle side of this kit.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ebewley on November 28, 2006, 03:34:56 PM
Hey Jason if you get time could you take a bunch of pics of the underneath of your kick? Some people on Pirate are wondering a little about the axle side of this kit.

FWIW: There are some pretty good underneath shots on Trail Tough's site.

-Eric
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Bigzook on November 28, 2006, 03:58:54 PM
Linkage? I couldnt find any, but I am pretty dull too.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: pdasilva on November 29, 2006, 04:17:25 AM
I still prefer the calmini prototype kit.This way we can keep our sidekick diffs and use a rear sidekick 3rd in the front hybrid.
Makes a lot more sense to me and would keep it suzuki. Besides i already have a rear 3rd with locker installed that i could use.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: ebewley on November 29, 2006, 08:15:17 AM
Linkage? I couldnt find any, but I am pretty dull too.

Hmm, I went to their site and couldn't find the pics I was thinking of. I have a nice series of underneath shots that Jason took. Give me a few, and I'll dig that up.

-Eric
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: Uncivilized on December 01, 2006, 01:05:50 PM
Not mentioned when this was released, but I was just browsing their website and it looks like this is available for a 4-door now. Looks like the same center bracket, just longer links.  It's great looking kit.


I still prefer the calmini prototype kit.This way we can keep our sidekick diffs and use a rear sidekick 3rd in the front hybrid.
Makes a lot more sense to me and would keep it suzuki. Besides i already have a rear 3rd with locker installed that i could use.

I thought this too at first, but when you think about it, if you're wheeling hard to need the SAS, and running 33"-35" tires you're going to need upgraded axles.
Title: Re: NEWS: Trail Tough's Sidekick/Tracker Straight Axle Conversion Now Available!
Post by: zukeduke on December 01, 2006, 11:02:48 PM
 well my kit is on order and i cant wait it looks awesome, I was wondering, they recommend using a 86 or newer rear diff , has anyone put it together with an older diff. will it fit , i know the newer one is wider  but i already have a built up diff from a 82