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Title: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on November 24, 2006, 01:33:28 PM
I had a 1.3 with dual 40s and it ran mint.   Now i put a 1.6 motor in and put the webers on it and it runs like poop.  Do i need to change jets or can i just readjust the screws...  Any help would be nice i need to get it running agian. if i do need jets which ones would be the ones to put in it.
  im thinking 120 mian jets and 170 air corectors?? dose that sound about right?  or is the stock 115 and 200 ok??? thank-s everyone
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: mrfuelish on November 24, 2006, 01:41:07 PM
If they have been sitting a while pull the mains and the air jets and check them to make sure that they are not clogged. also check the manifold vacuume,and timming.
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: ebewley on November 24, 2006, 07:31:51 PM
Don't forget to search the ZUKIWORLD archives for answers too!

http://www.zukiworld.com/month_050102/feature_dcoesetup.htm


-Eric
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: 1badzuk on November 26, 2006, 12:37:30 AM
that post you put up is for a 1.3 i did allready check through all the posts!!!
i tore them down and rebuilt then cleaned everything.  I think i need new jets anyone know which ones or anything on jets????????
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: PSYKOCHI on November 28, 2006, 04:17:14 PM
I found one guy thru Reynold's machine in CA.  He was very knowledgeable about the Webers.
Unfortunately lost his e-mail address when my hard drive fried.
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: fx90 on November 29, 2006, 02:22:04 PM
i had a 1.3 and changed to a 8v 1.6 adjusted air screws and idle ran perfect with dual webers       fred
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: 1badzuk on November 29, 2006, 09:40:02 PM
did you change the jets at all?? i just bought 120 main jets and 170 air correctors ill put them in and see what that dose....
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: ebewley on November 30, 2006, 07:57:57 AM
that post you put up is for a 1.3 i did allready check through all the posts!!!
i tore them down and rebuilt then cleaned everything.  I think i need new jets anyone know which ones or anything on jets????????

Fundamentals are the same. I've had mikuni and weber sidedrafts on both 1.6 8-valves and 1.3 engines. That carburator set the the story was about came off of a 1.6 and was put on a high po 1.3 that Reynolds machine built for me. I had to up the main jets!

The carburator requirements for the 1.3 and 1.6 8-valve are very similar. SO much so that an older used up 1.6 may take less fuel/air than a fresh or hopped up 1.3 and vice versa.

Are you sure the 1.6 that you installed is running correctly?

How are your plugs looking after a bit of running around?

One thing I like to do and it works really good if you have a header and still works if you have a exhaust manifold is get a squirt bottle with some water and spray the individual header tubes as they come out of the head. You can tell how hot each cylinder is running (roughly) and also tell if you have a dead hole or one that is running off a bit. Then you can focus on that.

Hope that helps, -Eric
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: 1badzuk on November 30, 2006, 08:56:43 PM
i just got sone with putting the new jets in i put the 120 main jets and got it really close it runs alot better but not perfect yet.  It wont come back down at idle when you hit the gas it goes up up up and dont come back. maybe it just needs a lil oil and i guess if i buy a tuning tool ill get them right..
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: ebewley on December 01, 2006, 08:20:24 AM
i just got sone with putting the new jets in i put the 120 main jets and got it really close it runs alot better but not perfect yet.  It wont come back down at idle when you hit the gas it goes up up up and dont come back. maybe it just needs a lil oil and i guess if i buy a tuning tool ill get them right..

Yes, you need a flow 'tuning tool' that should be standard issue sold with the carbs. If the throttle is sticking, make sure you have mounted the carbs properly, If one is cocked off to the side or unlevel with the other, they can bind.

-Eric
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: 1badzuk on December 02, 2006, 06:27:55 PM
ok cool ill check that out...   Its over heating when im going down hill i dont knwo why.... the 3 cylinder is glowing and the others are not.....   wish there was someone in pa to do this ill pay anyhting to have someone help me !!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: mrfuelish on December 02, 2006, 08:00:44 PM
It sounds like you could have a vacuum leak and maybe a bad egr valve. do you have a vaccum advance on the dist.? is the hose on your egr? take the manifold back off and see how the gasket looks and how it is hitting the head.
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: 1badzuk on December 02, 2006, 09:07:39 PM
these are on a 1.6 tracker motor not a 1.3 sammy by the way ok thanks ill try all that asap and get back...  for the header to glow it would be runing lean right? and that means i need to back out the screw a lil..?????  damn i wish i just had a stock intake and carb id trade even up for these damn webers i have everything to change it over to fuel injected just dont have much time i need it for winter....
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs
Post by: 1badzuk on December 04, 2006, 10:12:40 PM
ok i got them a lil better.. Dose anyone know the fuel pressure they should get???
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: mrfuelish on December 05, 2006, 12:39:19 AM
I run three pounds on a single spring float, and five pounds on a double spring float.
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 05, 2006, 06:41:40 PM
what do you mean by single and double spring float?? i have dual 40 dcoe side drafts what fuel presure should they get??
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: ebewley on December 06, 2006, 08:21:55 AM
what do you mean by single and double spring float?? i have dual 40 dcoe side drafts what fuel presure should they get??

1.5 to 2.0 psi.

-Eric
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 06, 2006, 11:22:40 AM
only 1.5 to 2.0 on a 1.6 8v with dual 40 dcoes?????????????
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: ebewley on December 06, 2006, 01:40:08 PM
only 1.5 to 2.0 on a 1.6 8v with dual 40 dcoes?????????????

Yes.

-Eric
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 06, 2006, 02:57:22 PM
ok cool ill go check it now.. also should i have the vacum advanced hooked from the distributor to the inktake or hows that go i think i  have it right. but im not sure it has a t fiting on it conecting it to the carb ,distributor, and the brake bootser thing
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: ebewley on December 07, 2006, 09:08:46 AM
ok cool ill go check it now.. also should i have the vacum advanced hooked from the distributor to the inktake or hows that go i think i  have it right. but im not sure it has a t fiting on it conecting it to the carb ,distributor, and the brake bootser thing

Dude... READ the article that I posted a link to in this thread.

-Eric
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 07, 2006, 10:32:59 AM
dude thats a 1.3 zuk motor i have a 1.6 tracker motor im sure theres a difference thats what i m trying to find out if anyone out there has this setup and what there specs are.. thanks for the help though
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: ebewley on December 07, 2006, 11:22:13 AM
dude thats a 1.3 zuk motor i have a 1.6 tracker motor im sure theres a difference thats what i m trying to find out if anyone out there has this setup and what there specs are.. thanks for the help though


As long as you're sure there is a difference, I won't worry about it.  ;) 

Did you read any of my posts? From earlier on in THIS thread Fundamentals are the same. I've had mikuni and weber sidedrafts on both 1.6 8-valves and 1.3 engines. That carburator set the the story was about came off of a 1.6 and was put on a high po 1.3 that Reynolds machine built for me. I had to up the main jets!



-Eric

Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 07, 2006, 11:39:51 AM
it ran mint on my 1.3 when i put it on the 1.6 it wasent getting enough fuel so i went and got a lil more bigger main jets now i dont know whats goign on when i hit wot it doggs i guess im back to zero.. its getting enough fuel pressure and i got them pretty close without useing that tool which i just bought but waiting on it to get here..im thinking something got messed up when i swaped motors
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 07, 2006, 11:41:17 AM
there is a difference but not that much dont know if it will affect anythign or not. 1.3 1300cc 1.6 1600cc at 5500 rpm theres a nice drop read the charts
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: TrAkLsI on December 07, 2006, 09:02:08 PM
1badzuk  post some pics of your carb set up  ;D  BTW where did you get your manifold?   thanks, 
Title: Re: weber 40 dcoe need help with carbs ANYONE know what fuel pressure?
Post by: 1badzuk on December 07, 2006, 09:25:23 PM
it all came on the 1.3 when i bought it and i never had the stock stuff or i would just put it back on asap ok ill take some pics as soon as its daylight