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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: jookycola on January 02, 2005, 11:40:59 AM
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well i'm deciding that in the end i'll just go with the calmini 3 inch lift. i've given up finding a real 4 inch lift that doesn't require me to do a body lift too. i want my lift to be all suspension.
my question is though, is it possible to add an inch to the calmini 3 inch via, a longer spring or coil spring spacer?
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I'm not familure with the Calmin lift. But in my experience the stock steering will not tolerate a 4" lift and the A-arms would look like this / \ .... This could cause serious handeling issues.
Remember it is not the shape of the leaver it is the point of their piviots. Z-links just get the stuff out of the way, they make no correction to the steering.
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steering as stated above would be a issue as would CV's. i know Mike has went though countless custom built front ends before finding a set up that works.
stu
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Just do a minimal body lift (1"-2") ... it's relatively painless, and reasonably harmless.
I'm NOT a fan of body lifts, but keep it minimal and you shouldn't have any of the problems people have when they BL some full size (heavy) pickup
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i'm not a fan of body lifts either but its just one of those things you do on a trac/kick. i cut the mid section out of the frame and moved it up after doning the body lift to stop the mid section from draging as much.
stu
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I ran 1" spring spacers with my 3" Calmini lift. It worked just fine. My 1" only measured a little over .75" though. They were for an XJ and needed bored out a little, but they worked great. I still have them if anyone wants them.
Brian
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I ran 1" spring spacers with my 3" Calmini lift.  It worked just fine.  My 1" only measured a little over .75" though.  They were for an XJ and needed bored out a little, but they worked great.  I still have them if anyone wants them.
Brian
I'll take them! :D
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I put the rocky road 1" spacers with my calmini 3" kit.
as of yet i have had no problems, i know of 2 other vits than run the same set up and they have not had any trouble with this set up either.
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yeah i run those rocky road ones, i think they are nearly 1 and and 1/2 inches if im not wrong.
I too hated body lifts but like its said its one fo those things with a kick, the other option is lots of fender cutting.
we tend to work on the theroy of the rear axle has all the travel as I have spring clamps and my rear shocks are 7 inches longer than the calmini ones so you can push the limit on the rear with limiting straps and a few bits,
cv angles, camber seems to be more of an issue when playing with the IFS. im leaving mine until a live axles comes along at some point.
I suffer with camber and its probably due to the fact that you guys drive on the right where i drive on the left of the road but my newly installed camber bolts seem to have done the trick.
ok i will shutup now lol
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now lets just sya i order some lift springs and coil spacers..... could i technically order the calmini arms and get them to fit?
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I don't believe Cal-mini sells any pieces seperate. A kit or nothing.
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Your get Warranty replacements if something breaks but i guess you would have to send the broken part back
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i guess you would have to send the broken part back
I can't recall ever hearing of a Calmini A-Arm breaking.
So, what's the big deal about the body lift? Afraid it'll make the Kick too "tippy"? I can't see that at all. Also, every inch you can get the body off the ground is a good thing - it's very susceptible to serious rock damage. Even with the lift, you'll want rock sliders too.
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im gonna givethem a call to find out if i can get just the a arm but outta curiosity is there anything else ill need to make it fit?
-mo
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put the plate that has the three bolt holes that calmini tells you to bolt to the top of the a-arm on the botttom, then flip your strut mount its 4 incher no prob. BUT the cv wont last as long.
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I have the Calmini 3"+3" lift.Anvil housing also.I tried once the 1 1/8" Rocky Road coil spacers.The truck looked very good sitting even more higher.But,the front axle shaft angle looked really awful and the front shocks had no upper travel.The CV's were operating at very high angle and damage was almost sure.Also the front end was bumping too hard when offroading.The truck is too light for the the 3" Calmini front coils which are too strong to be used without steel bumpers,winch,e.t.c So I removed the 1 1/8" spacers.Camber was not an issue,cause I modified the shock mount holes to correct it.I made the shock's mount holes adjustable.I can make them look like this  / \ or \ / whenever I want,lets say.I dont trust camber bolts.Take a look at the following photos,check the front axle shaft angle.Its just with the Calmini lift,no coil spacers.I believe thats the max lift the Kick can get with this set up (3"-Anvil) on the grounds that you want the front CV s to operate good and no mods are done to the crossmember or front housing mounts(i.e lowering it)
http://www.to4x4.gr/gallery/albums/album40/DSC00708.jpg
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I ran for a while with the 3" upper strut drop and the plate flipped, and trashed CV's all the time. The slight bit of extra drop is not worth the carnage to your CV's.
Zig
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I would have to say on the my Xl-7 the Calmini spring are on the soft side. I would think with a winch/ bumber that I would need the spacer just to keep it level. But then again the xl-7 is a hole lot heaver the a kick.
George
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I have the 3" calmini setup and the front sagged bad It looks like a 2" and I dont have a winch or anything heavy. When Wild saw it he thought it was a 2" lift. My dad has the same setup and his hasent sagged at all. :-/ I did call them about this prob. they seemed reluctent to send me new springs >:(
Kevin
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yeah i have run the rocky road spacer for about 12 months now and im still on the same cvs.
I only run these in the front as i had the same problem the truck started looking like a drag racer as the front sagged badly , its now about level . I thoguht about the strut mount flip and decided against it.
I do like the idea of adjusting the top shock mounts as i dont find you get a great deal of adjustment with the camber bolts. Mind you i havant read the instructions and put a bolt in each side at the top using the bottom to at as a pivit
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I have the Calmini 3" on my LWB with the strut spacers and Old Man Emu struts and an ARB winch bar and Ramsey 8000 winch. It sits level front to back but does have a slight lean to one side. I needed a camber bolt on one side only. The CV's are OK so far and the angles don't seem too bad but I'd still like to improve their operating angle for longevity.
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Zig, your site says your truck has additional problems with the CVs because it sits higher cos its Canadian. Others may not have the same problems. Its something to watch out for though - maybe Spanish models are different again.
Mark - The front isn't supposed to be level, the back should be a bit higher, its the way they come from the factory. I can well believe yours was a bit lower than that though cos of the weight. The camber bolts are supposed to be installed that way (or I misread the instructions ;D) - sent you a too.
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anything is possible with them,i broke 6-8 pairs of sami springs when i put the 51/2 super on.half of which where the H/D sets.
AZ ;D
I can't recall ever hearing of a Calmini A-Arm breaking.
So, what's the big deal about the body lift?  Afraid it'll make the Kick too "tippy"?  I can't see that at all.  Also, every inch you can get the body off the ground is a good thing - it's very susceptible to serious rock damage.  Even with the lift, you'll want rock sliders too.
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thats good to know about it leaning to the front as its still does even with sping spacers so i will leave it as it is .
Glad about the camber bolts too.
Rhinoman you have been quiet lately