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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: DAC1138 on February 13, 2007, 10:32:01 PM
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I was shopping around for some performance air intake kits. I couldn't find anything form injen or K&N for the cold air intake kits. I could find those parts for other suzuki models, but not specifically for my 1996 sidekick JX (4 door). I was wondering if anyone knew where to buy a cold air intake kit, or if anyone had any tips or thoughts on how to rig my own. I've seen a few rigs done from scratch here on the forums. Any tips from you guys?
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a few guys did what I did when I made my intake
(it could be adjusted as a CAI)
follow the link to my cardomain page
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i just went to advance auto and bought an AEM short ram intake, and attached it to the metal intake pipe that goes across the top of the motor, and im trying to make a heat shield to go around the filter, but it works fine like it is
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Does that mean you disconnected the airbox from the system? Does the 96 have a MAF sensor or a MAP sensor somewhere else in the system? Im asking because the MAF sensor on my 95 is right at the airbox outlet. I'm wondering how it could work without it? Could of made mt turbo build easier withiut the airbox and MAF sensor.
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a few guys did what I did when I made my intake
(it could be adjusted as a CAI)
follow the link to my cardomain page
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([url]http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/1/web/673000-673999/673055_328.jpg[/url])
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Help me Heal!!!!! PLS CLICK HERE!!!!!! ([url]http://www.mgcluster.net/mguk_world1/?ac=vid&vid=11027759[/url])
Be a TechWarrior!!!!!!! Its Free!!!!!!!! ([url]http://www.techwarrior.co.uk/?ac=vid&vid=37006273[/url])
Ah, thanks. I've actually been to your site many times before, I never saw that before. Thanks for the info.
Does anyone else have any other methods? All these ideas are great, I'm going to have to save up some money for when summer comes back around so I have some outdoor projects.
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I'm just using a K&N in my stock airbox.
Works good for me.
Doesn't get wet.
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I'm just using a K&N in my stock airbox.
Works good for me.
Doesn't get wet.
a drop-in is a good way too
especially if youre offroading
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I'm just using a K&N in my stock airbox.
Works good for me.
Doesn't get wet.
a drop-in is a good way too
especially if youre offroading
Ya. not all of us can have a cool lowriding Zuk and a jacked up one ;) ;D
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So basically it's easy enough just to get standard/generic parts from an auto parts store and work from there just rigging it all together?
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ive actually seen people use PVC pipe too
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PVC pipe? wouldnt you have to worry about cracking?
What other affordable piping solutions would you guys recommend? And any air filter recommends? Specific K&N filter I should use?
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So I was messing around with my car today. Mostly messing with the air intake stuff. I disconnected parts of it, and reconnected it all. I was looking for the o2 sensor (still can't find it). I found a little thing sticking out of the side of my intake pipe. It's like a little container for air from the looks of it. It's a container that just hangs on the side of the pipe. There's a hole in the side of the pipe where this container is stuck on. I removed this and started my car to see how it would react. My car started and stalled. What is this piece? And if i modify my intake, what should I do about this one piece?
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you might want to actually read through my cardomain page
i have the info for the intake there
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I've read through all that, but it doesnt say what that little super soaker looking air jug thing is. I'd like to know what I'm doing to my intake and why, rather than just follow a guide. It helps me learn.
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thats a little air chamber
(something about vaccuum or sound)
most people dont modify it
although if you want to give it a go
id be curious to see what happens if you do
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My rig is a 96 tracker. I was told that that little "thingy" hanging off of the side is a resonator. It is supposed to keep the air flow quiet as it goes into your air intake :-\. The little ribbed area on my intake tube cracked and I replaced it, after the MAF, using flexible conduit to run big wires through until I can rig a cold air intake ;D. Anyway, after pulling the old tube off, I was curious to see what was in the little "thingy" hanging off of the side of the tubing. I cut it open and found nothing more than a open container. So I guess the resonator is what it is ::)!
Good luck finding a cold air intake for anything after a 94 model! I looked on ebay and they have one that fits a 94 model and I was kind of wondering if it would work :-\?
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Ah, so that's what the thing is. Not an essential piece then. I noted that after I took it off, my engine started and instantly died. Maybe that was because I left the hole open.
Another question now. What are the two sensor things attached to the air intake area? There's one on the tube and one attached to the box where the air filter is.
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The square thing on the tube is the MAF (mass air flow) sensor
The one on the box is the IAT
(from my cardomain pages)
IAT Sensor: The IAT is a thermistor, a semi-conductive material that changes resistance in relation to its temperature. It is located in the intake manifold so it can measure the intake air temperature. Basically what mine does, is that it heats up. So when theres air going across it (cooling it) it signals the fuel injection. More Speed = More Air = More Gas. You're gonna wanna try to keep that sensor IN FRONT of the Air Mass Sensor but IN BACK of the Air Filter itself. (As shown in the stock air assembly)
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Ah, so that's what the thing is. Not an essential piece then. I noted that after I took it off, my engine started and instantly died. Maybe that was because I left the hole open.
Yes, I would say it was because you didn't plug the hole. The engine was sucking air in through the hole, bypassing the MAF sensor, so the engine stalled from lack of fuel.
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That little resonator is called the "Boom Bottle". I have no idea where I acquired this little tidbit of information.
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BOOM BOTTLE :o! Ilike the sound of that compared to a resonator ;D! I might have to install another one on my intake just so I can say I have a BOOM BOTTLE on my Tracker ;)!LOL
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BOOM BOTTLE :o! Ilike the sound of that compared to a resonator ;D! I might have to install another one on my intake just so I can say I have a BOOM BOTTLE on my Tracker ;)!LOL
hah... wanna trade :P :P :P
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if your looking for intake pieces. go to the local junk yard
look around for what you might need. for 25 or 30 bucks you
can get some nice intake parts to work with.
that way its total custom.
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Gen-Erix: You don't mention the parts you used for your instructions. What type of air filter was it you purchases, and are there any equivilants to that that will work just as good? What tubing or piping did you use?
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i used an air filter that i found at a race shop
you just have to make sure that it will fit the gap AND the end of the MAF
I decided to do one last check on some of the local stores and it turned up another filter. This one fit a 2.75" and was much shorter than the other filter. (6.75" which helped installation greatly) Plus it had a thick rubber section where I could thread the IAT Sensor. It took a monstrous 1/2" drill bit to do it. Long story short it cost me $26
step by step and pics here
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/673055/3
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That little resonator is called the "Boom Bottle". I have no idea where I acquired this little tidbit of information.
That sounds like those aftermarket bottles they used to fit to 2 stroke dirt bikes a while back.
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HI I HAVE A 1993 5 DOOR VITARA WITH THE 16V ENGINE I FITTED A K&N INDUCTION KIT MEANT FOR THE 8V ENGINE ON TO MY VITARA BY REMOVING THE AIR BOX AND THEN REMOVING THE SHAPED BUR ON THE END OF THI PLASTIC PIPE WITH A FILE AND PUSHING THE CONE SHAPED FILTER ON,IT IS A TIGHT FIT BUT WORKS PERFECT AS ALL THE AIR YOU GRT IN GOES THROUGH ALL ORIGINAL SENSORS AND YOU ROUTE THE COLD AIR FEED PIPE OUT UNDER THE RADIATOR TO THE BOTTOM PART OF LOWER GRILL. DONE 4000 MILES WITH THIS ON AND IS GREAT SOUNDS GREAT TOO
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Now I'm reading different stuff about placing the intake in the wheel well (where the Sidekick places it by default) and placing the intake in the engine compartment. If it's in the wheelwell, it draws in colder air but the air has to travel farther for it to reach the engine. Wheras with the other method, placing it in the engine compartment, it draws in warmer air but it takes less time for the air to reach the engine.
Anyone have any personal experience with each and can give me some feedback on each method? Isn't the engine compartment thing kind of moot because isn't cold air constantly being drawn into the engine area when you're in motion? So isn't the hot air constantly getting flushes out? What's the deal here?
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that would be for a Cold Air Intake
im in Hawaii so to me personally its meh
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I'm in colorado, where it snows all winter and rains all summer. In the morning you can go swimming, and in the afternoon you can go snowboarding. I wouldn't install cold air intake if weather plays a big factor. I'm sure there's ways around it, but it gets more complex and expensive (and ugly). Like a snorkel.
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I went to 2 auto parts stores today and couldnt find any air filters that fit the 2.75" size. What k&n filters fit the 2.75" pipe? I saw the other cheapo brand performance filters, but they only had 3", and I'm more looking for a k&n.
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you can just get a K&N
then look for a staggered coupler
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i got the k&n induction kit for the vitara 8v 1.6 and just filed off the flange on end of air connection that goes into standard air box pretty easy and the kit i used is on k&n web site so dont see how you guys havin such a hard time with this???????
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i got the k&n induction kit for the vitara 8v 1.6 and just filed off the flange on end of air connection that goes into standard air box pretty easy and the kit i used is on k&n web site so dont see how you guys havin such a hard time with this???????
personally, i didnt want to pay for the K&N kit
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yeah mine was about £45 :'( good results tho