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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: zuk jockey on February 17, 2007, 09:55:51 PM
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Hello i am new to this board. i have had two sammy's, now living in canada they have all rotted away so i now have a 94 sidekick i have bought with worn 31 10.5 bfg muds. a 3.5 inch body liftand mayby a suspention lift but i cant tell. it has blue springs and control arms. I thought it might be a calmini 2" but struts are grey and rear shocks not calmini. can any ine tell me how to figure out what ive got so i can get an extra 1.5" of lift. if this is a calmini 2" can i put spacers on top of it. if only using 3.5 inch body lift would the 31s fit there, is no rubbing. i have 4 brand new bfg mud terrains just begging to go on
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If your A-arms and coils are blue, there is a VERY good chance of your lift being a Calmini. The easiest way to tell if it is a 2" or 3" kit is to check if the kit includes differential drop brackets. The 2" kit does not, while the 3" does.
I'm not sure, but I think if you run a diff drop bracket, you might be able to run spacers on top of the coils...because the bracket returns the CV's to stock angles right? Don't quote me on that because I'm only speculating. You may want to look into this some more. Contact Calmini or Boondox and see what they say.
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well im not even sure ther is a suspention lift i guess my rear question is how can i tell. does anyone have pix of a stock control arm
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ok i searched the web and found an install tutorial and my control arms are definetly not stock. now what do i do to clear 33s and i do not want a calmini 3 inch lift. is fender cutting the only way? can i get ifs drop brackets anywhere
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ok i searched the web and found an install tutorial and my control arms are definetly not stock. now what do i do to clear 33s and i do not want a calmini 3 inch lift. is fender cutting the only way? can i get ifs drop brackets anywhere
You can fit coil spacers on top of the springs to give some additional lift but you'll have to cut the fenders. You'll probably also need to push back the corners of the footwells to gain some clearance there as well. How much you need to cut depends on the offset and width of the wheels. I have 33x9.5s on 7" rims with 3 3/4" backdpacing. I had to trim the fenders about an inch and push the footwells back about the same distance. The lockstops needed to be adjusted just a little to stop the tyre hitting the frame. I did a trial fit of some 33 x 12.5s on 10" rims and I would have had to cut the fenders back a lot.
The Calmini 2" lift comes with drop brackets although they don't drop the diff as much as the 3" kit. You'll need to check the CV travel to see how much extra drop they can take. Calmini's web site has a good pic of the 2" kit so you should be able to identify all the parts.
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Hello i am new to this board. i have had two sammy's, now living in canada they have all rotted away so i now have a 94 sidekick i have bought with worn 31 10.5 bfg muds. a 3.5 inch body liftand mayby a suspention lift but i cant tell. it has blue springs and control arms. I thought it might be a calmini 2" but struts are grey and rear shocks not calmini. can any ine tell me how to figure out what ive got so i can get an extra 1.5" of lift. if this is a calmini 2" can i put spacers on top of it. if only using 3.5 inch body lift would the 31s fit there, is no rubbing. i have 4 brand new bfg mud terrains just begging to go on
Where about in Canada do you live Greg?
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just outside peterborough ontario. Im borowing a sawsall this weekend time to get trimming it will be tough i hoped not to have to i got a sidekick with need body kit its almost like its wide body or somyhing about 3 inches wider and not just around the wheel wells all the way to ythe doors. i guess i will have to modify them. I have heard 33s are hard to fit but with 5.5 inches of total lift if my truck didnt flex 33s would fit great. this really makes me miss my little samies soa and 33s those were the days
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33's are easy to fit. 33x12.50x15 on 8" rims + 3" body lift + 3" Calmini suspension lift kit + trimming of the front guards - ditch the rear bumper and trim the front bumper in an arc to clear the tyres turning arc and there you have it ;D
Pretty easy really and worth every bit of effort. A Kick on 33's is one VERY capable rig :o
ZeusZuki 8)
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33's are easy to fit. 33x12.50x15 on 8" rims + 3" body lift + 3" Calmini suspension lift kit + trimming of the front guards - ditch the rear bumper and trim the front bumper in an arc to clear the tyres turning arc and there you have it ;D
Pretty easy really and worth every bit of effort. A Kick on 33's is one VERY capable rig :o
ZeusZuki 8)
How much backspacing are you running?
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thsnx for all the info ill try to get pix of the currant stance
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im trying to post some pix bear with me first try
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tghos pix are with 31s i seem to have prety good clearance. waht about cv angles does it look like i an get more out of spacers?
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ah, isn't it cute
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About the only way I know for sure to tell if you have a 2" or 3" lift is to look at the front coils. If they are blue, you have a 3" and if they look like stock springs you have a 2" lift.
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they are blue
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Well, if your front springs are blue as well as the rears, you most likely already have a 3" calmini lift on it. The 3" kit also includes blue rear lower control arms, blue upper rear Y link and blue front diff lowering brackets in addition to the blue front lower A-arms. If all those things are there, then it is almost definately a 3" calmini kit with different struts and shocks. While you could possibly put some small spacers on top of the springs for more lift, you really wont need spacers to fit the 33's. I managed to fit 33-10.50x15 Swamper radials on a 93 Tracker with a 4" body lift, 1-1/2" front coil spacers and Calmini 2" rear lift coils with some trimming of the fenderwells and a little floorboard pounding at the back of the front wheel wells. Since you already have at least 1" more lift than I did, you should be able to fit the tires on already with only slight trimming/pounding. Depending on the width of your tires, I would suggest 15x8" to 15x10" rims with around 3.75" of backspacing. More backspacing and you'll probably rub the frame a lot and less backspacing would need more trimming/pounding to clear the outside of the body. Good luck!
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Rhino - Not sure on the back spacing. I will try and find out for you.
If you do a search for "lifted 2.0 V6 five door" you should find some pics to look at - this rig is running 33" MTR's
ZeusZuki 8)
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3" kit has centre drop bracket and strut spacers 2" kit has no strut spacers and strut top mounts flipped. Also if you look at the pics on the Calmini site the 2" arms are quite different from the 3" arms.
2.0 V6 five door
That could be the difference, mine is a 3dr. Digger seems to have had the same issues as myself.
For a 10.5 or 12.5" tyre I would go for 8" rims, I went with 10s because I got some for free.
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i have no strut tower spacers im so confused. im ordering a sky spacer kit a bit of a roll of the dice but i think my cv angles are ok and that will give me strut spacers as well ive seen one guy on here with a 4 door with 6 inch aclmini combo and 2 inch spacers wich would ad about 2.5 inches and he claims it been ok well we will see. thanxs for all this input guys its great this forum is here
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Rhino - that was just a reference, I have fitted the same set up on 3 doors as well. The 2.0 V6 and 1600's all work out the same ;D - no floor bashing required ( not once ).
ZeusZuki 8)
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ive read about 3 hours now and just found arguements im looking for strengthened cvs if any one can link me to a thread i know its probly been dicused to death