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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: SnoFalls on November 05, 2004, 06:30:52 AM
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Hi all,
I picked up a '91 automatic lsi tracker last weekend and am going to do a mild trail rig outta it ... The stocker is incredibly clean (engine is immaculate), running good, and everything is in working order.
I'm thinkin' 30x9.5 with a 2" BL and some 1" spring spacers (trimming as needed).
Some pics of the build progress are here
http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/
I'm *just* getting started, so the remaval of uncessary bits, fluid changes, etc are being done now. the BL and spacers are on their way. A herculiner job on the inside, and some other interior mods (CB, stereo, GPS, etc) are also on the todo list. Also have to get some sorta top (I _want_ a protop, but that's almost a budget breaker).
Rob
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Great! Welcome to Zuk-dom.
Nice rig too, looks like you can do some good work with the body massaging.
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Nice rig, and nice dog! I love German Shepards.
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FYI, I fit 30x9.50's on my 91 trackick with just the 1" spacer lift from RRO. Only rubbed the frame at full lock, but it doesn't even do that anymore.
Remove the bumper covers, weld the rear end, get some 30's, and a skid plate to cover the under belly and some rock sliders. You will be set!! I followed SAS rigs, duel lockered rigs, 33's, 35's EVERYWHERE, and never got stuck once. I was impressed. ;D
Good lil wheelin rigs!
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FYI, I fit 30x9.50's on my 91 trackick with just the 1" spacer lift from RRO. Only rubbed the frame at full lock, but it doesn't even do that anymore.
Remove the bumper covers, weld the rear end, get some 30's, and a skid plate to cover the under belly and some rock sliders. You will be set!! I followed SAS rigs, duel lockered rigs, 33's, 35's EVERYWHERE, and never got stuck once. I was impressed.  ;D
Good lil wheelin rigs!
I've got the covers stripped already ... I think this is going to be just what I wanted outta a trail rig (plus parts/beer run rig).
I've got a "costs" sheet running here ...
http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/costs.html
That alone is a hard thing to do :) ... and the wheels/tires are going to be a hunt.
My goal is to stay around $3k total for now (and I'm *way* under that so far). A hard top is going to be a hard button to push ....
Rob
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FYI, I fit 30x9.50's on my 91 trackick with just the 1" spacer lift from RRO. Only rubbed the frame at full lock, but it doesn't even do that anymore.
Remove the bumper covers, weld the rear end, get some 30's, and a skid plate to cover the under belly and some rock sliders. You will be set!! I followed SAS rigs, duel lockered rigs, 33's, 35's EVERYWHERE, and never got stuck once. I was impressed.  ;D
Good lil wheelin rigs!
I'll agree with the first part. I ran 30x9.50's on my 4 door without any lift. You just hjave to get rid of the inner lip on the inside of the rear fenders. I wouldn't weld up the rear though. Hard on axles. Since it doesn't sound like a trailer queen I'd spend the money on a locker. I happen to know somebody with one for sale ;) He's even right down HWY 18 from ya ;D
Brian
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Looks like its gonna be a good trail machine!
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In my opinion your two "sidekicks" look a lot better then all the other ones I see on this list ;D
Brian
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I happen to know somebody with one for sale ;)  He's even right down HWY 18 from ya ;D
Brian
brian ... tell me more :)
I'd luv to put 5.12's in with a locker rear. (my auto has 4.62 today). It is definetly on my todo list.
Rob
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I got 5.12s in mine, with 31x10.50's, night and day difference between the 4.62's and the 31s.
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brian ... tell me more :)
I'd luv to put 5.12's in with a locker rear. (my auto has 4.62 today). It is definetly on my todo list.
Rob
I guess I could get out in my garage and pull out my 5.125s also. I PMed you, so you can give me a call if you want.
Brian
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My latest efforts here
http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/stripdown-part2/
Half done with fluid changes (oil & tranny), tcase and diffs next.
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Looking sharp so far on the body work, but I personally like to go the other way ;D
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Well I finally got my new tires mounted to the cheapo rims I'd picked up ...
I went with 31x10.50 Yokohama Geolandar's ... they are nice and meaty, but *very* quiet on pavement. Downside is I expect they'll wear fast, but good and soft when offroad (probably 50% of the hours are going to be non-pavement anyway).
My minimal lift (2"body, 1" spacer) meant some trimming was need at the rear of the front fenders. After the initial cuts I'm clearing good, with a little more cleanup inside to eliminate *all* rubbing it should be perfect. I really have to work at it to get into the frame (and I might just fix that by adjusting the stops a little).
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/front-stuff.jpg)
(this pic is with the outter fender sliced and then posed to stuff in the tire)
The rears on the other hand are hitting the fender lip ...
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/rear-stuff.jpg)
I'm thinking a "virtual" body lift (slice and bend the fender as much as necessary). Another 1" on the BL woulda done it, but I hate the 2" I already had to do :) I don't mind some body massaging ...
Some more pics ...
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/front-flex.jpg)
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/rear-flex.jpg)
Rob
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Looking great, man! 8)
I still really dig the blacked-out top :)
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gotta luv herculiner too ... I cut the front fender about 1/2" from where I wanted the"line", used some pliers and bent a "lip" into the fender. The herc just bent right around the radius ... so I have a cut fender, with a lip, and still herculined.
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I still really dig the blacked-out top :)
It *looks* good (and I like that too :) ) ... I DONT like the restricted visibility tho! ... at least I only have to wear it during the winter :)
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Looking great!! :D
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Looking good. Nice tires.
And I ran into that problem on my 4dr Sidekick when I mounted bigger tires (rear tire rub no lift (yet)).
Didn't notice it b-4 but I got a good groove in my rear tire now :o
coil spacers on the way. ;D
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sno falls, any pics of the tracker just sittng wiht the lift? not flexed or anything
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That's thing is turning out nice!! I'm headin out here in 5 mins to go pick up my 31" LTB's :D
Tire wear??? These thing weight like 2300 lbs, I'll get 30K outta these tires!! ;D
BTW, Snofall, you still got that white top sittin around???
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sno falls, any pics of the tracker just sittng wiht the lift? not flexed or anything
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/side.jpg)
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BTW, Snofall, you still got that white top sittin around???
I'll look in a few (might gone in the trash, or sitting out in a pile). It was in bad shape (windows opaque, rips, zippers broken, vinyl cracked and stiff). Got most of the mounting stuff still.
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looking good mate, sometimes i wish i took more consideration when doing stuff to my vit.
i initially fitted some 31"s to my vit with NO LIFT. this meant cutting a lof of guards. i had a lot of rear guard rub (cut) at full stuff, cut a groove in the tyre also.
and now with the 3" body lift, i have absolutely no rubbing at all.
i was also going to get the same tyres as whet you got, but over here they aren't cheap, and compared to the MT/Rs, are a bit over priced.
looks great.
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31" LTBs :o I didn't know they came in that size,
how wide are they 11.5 or 12.5 ???
Wild
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Wild, I think he wrote that those are 10.5's.
Looks like I am running "almost" the same setup as you. Except I have the 2" coil spacers which gave me about 2.5-3" of lift.
(http://cordova.asap.um.maine.edu/~prescottk1/geo1small.jpg)
Did I read that you had to cut your front fenders to use the 10.5" 31" tires?
Ohh yeah, mine gets beat like a red headed step child. Then it wants more. I think that the mud makes it happy. Speaking of which we have some snow in Maine, so it may be time for some snow play...
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I trimmed the fenders using the 31s as
a guide before I went to get the 33 LTBs,
I also did an A-arm relocation, I have a 4"
Body Lift, 3" front and rear Suspension lift
(http:// http://wildcatent.freeyellow.com/suzuki-rock.jpg )
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I've got my trimming done ...
Ended up "reworking" the rear lip up about 1". I can now full flex (i.e. 2 wheels off ground), and have finger clearance out back, and also clean clearance up front.
Went running around in the woods locally listening for any rub, and even banging it hard, everything sounds clear.
The rear "massaging" took about 2 hours. The gas filler kinda made the job a bit of a pain, but not too bad. Probably shoulda "documented" the procedure with pics, but oh well.
Essentially, I layed some tape to show my new line, trimmed to around 3/4" or so of that line (I used a cutoff wheel, but sawzall or shear, or plasma, or ... would work too). I then added some relief cuts every 3" or so (2" where it curves hard), used pliers to get the basic shape, and the BFH to finesse the new lip. The factory paint chipped in some places (as expected), but the factory primer held good.
I wasn't too worried about the "finish" of the new lip since I'm going to have to put some flares on. Also the body already has plenty of dents and scratches, so I just pounded away.
I wanna keep body rot away, so I'll probably have to go back and deal with some of the exposed cuts ... before the flares go on .. some primer should do the job of protecting the bare metal.
post-pics for the hungry ...
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/rear-right-cut.jpg)
(http://www.avalonforest.com/geo/tires/rear-left-cut.jpg)
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I could have had a hardtop for $250, still kicking my own ass for not jumping on it, could have sold it if I didn't want it and doubled my money.
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Yow, I never had to work the rear wheel
wells, I have been worrying about this
with 35s
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looks good
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final thauhgts on it? hows it been running, i love the look of it, im putting in my 2" spring spacers next week, how hard was it for you to install yours?
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final thauhgts on it? hows it been running, i love the look of it, im putting in my 2" spring spacers next week, how hard was it for you to install yours?
I'm happy so far, but just another few bits before it's trail worthy ....
I'm picking up some axels from a '90 kick donor sunday, so that'll get me 5.12's. Going to spool the rear, and not sure yet about the front.
Spring spacers are an day job (I work slow). The front took me a while till I got a pointer about pulling the 3 ball joint nuts. The rear is easy ...
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ok im gonan do mine ovr 4 days (total about 6 hours) i think i could get them doen by mechanics teacher is gonna help along with freinds
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start a thread when you get into it ... I got nice pointers when I did mine, it does help :)
over 4 days you should have NO prob
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ok great, did you use spring compressors?
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nope