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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: paps133 on March 09, 2007, 06:32:29 AM
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newbie qustion sorry, Which year had a 10 bolt rear end. Ive got a 1996 2 door 5 speed, i'm guessing it's a 12 bolt, will a 3rd from a the erlier 10 bolt fit in my 1996? What i'm thinking is swapping an older 10 bolt, in my current diff if it's possible. Any help is greatly appreciated, thankd ahead of time.
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I don't think a 10-bolt carrier will fit in a 12-bolt axle housing.
In fact, the ARB Air locker for 10-bolt vs 12 bolt is even a different model, so I guess there's a lot more different than just the number of holes.
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I've got some 5.89 for a 10 bolt, so i want to find a way to put them in. That being said, could i swap the entire rear axle from an older tracker with a 10 bolt rearend into my 1996?? Is this possible???? How would i identify a 10 bolf rearend without taking the rear diff apart, (i'm pretty sure the bone yard wouldn't let me take all there tracker apart ;D ;D. Thanks
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89 to 93 had the 10-bolt rear.
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Bob, I'm pretty sure a 10 bolt third will fit into a 12 bolt housing.
You can't swap carriers, but you can swap entire thirds. The issue is that with his 96 he just will have to find a way to bungee up his ABS line that ran down to his 12 bolt third.
;)
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What do u mean bungee up the abs line, do u mean just fasten them down???
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The 10 bolt rear won't have a connector or even a spot for one for your ABS. You have a line that runs down from the body that connects to the connector on your current 12 bolt rear third. Since you won't be able to use it, you'll have to "bungee it up" (bungee cord) or fasten it up in some other way.
You'll also get a persistent BRAKE light on the dash, unless you unplug the nifty ECU looking black box on your floorboard under the brake pedal.
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The 10 bolt rear won't have a connector or even a spot for one for your ABS. You have a line that runs down from the body that connects to the connector on your current 12 bolt rear third. Since you won't be able to use it, you'll have to "bungee it up" (bungee cord) or fasten it up in some other way.
You'll also get a persistent BRAKE light on the dash, unless you unplug the nifty ECU looking black box on your floorboard under the brake pedal.
ok, let me get this straigh them, just want to make sure i got this . I can use my 1996 axel and put in a 3rd from a 89-93 which had 10 bolt carrier in them??????? Only down fall is "bungee" the rear abs. Will i lose my front abs aswell??? Thanks so much. I'm going to the bone yard to get a 3rd out of a 89 -93.
Thanks so much to both of you now, i'm going to have 32 on my DD now.
thanks again,
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Your front doesn't have ABS. These things only had ABS in the rear.
So yes, the only thing you really have to worry about is the ABS cable.
(I've swapped 10 bolts into my 12 bolt rear that I had)
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thank u so much, u made me so happy........ ;D ;D ;D
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I swapped a 10 bolt carrier into my 12 bolt rear in order to fit my 5:83s. No ABS to worry about over here though.
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What has me wondering, and scratching my head, is this:
When I put in my 5.83's, and ARB, I'm pretty sure I "lost" the "toothed ring" that drives the ABS pickup - but I MAY have reconnected the ABS cable. That would mean that the ABS would see the rear axle as "never turning", and it would kick in the ABS - wouldn't it?
I do NOT have a continuous BRAKE light, so I must have hooked the cable back up, but I really do NOT think I put the interrupter back in. How curious.
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Maybe it's plugged in so it completes the circuit, so you don't get a BRAKE light, but since you don't have a toothed ring, it can't do anything?
???
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I got myself a 3rd from a 90 kick, for a case of beer. ;D ;D ;D ;D
I'm having the best day ever, due to the help of a few members on this board.
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So if i can put a 10 bolt rear in my 96 tracker where where would i find the 5.83's for the rear is the front the same? I have a set for the front but the rear 12 bolt is gone. thanks for the input srry about asking a question on your thread
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My 93 4-door had a 10-bolt with ABS. When i did my ARB, i had a spare matching 3rd (with ABS) and put the locker into the 3rd member, then put the whole chunk into my rear end. The ARB air locker doesn't utilize the ABS ring. When i put the 3rd back in, i hooked the plug back in, even though i knew it wouldn't do anything, but it does seem to complete the circuit and the dash brake light doesn't come on.
The difference between a 10 bolt and a 12 bolt is the amount of holes that the ring gear uses to bolt itself to the diff case, not the number of bolts/studs the 3rd member uses to attach to the housing. The ARB's have 2 different part numbers, which are basically exactly the same thing, except the cases and flange caps have 10 or 12 bolts. If you have a 10 bolt ARB and want to put it in with a 12-bolt ring gear (if you switched gears or something), you'd just need to buy a new air locker case and flange cap for the 12 bolt and swap all the internals.
The other trick you can do to trick out the ABS units is use the 3rd member housing you're pulling out of your rig and install the 10 bolt internals and new gearing into that so you can plug that cable back in (not that it does anything).