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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: mahimahimo on December 20, 2004, 11:44:27 AM
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i was wondering if any one has any pics of a snorkel that rocky-road sells after install and how hard it was to install and what u noticed
thanx
mo
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Yep, I'd like to see one too, never seen one from the snorkel side, just that one pic on RR's site.
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*cough*wasteofmoney*cough*
Black PVC and a cone filter get the job done for a whole lot less dough ;)
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*cough*wasteofmoney*cough*
Black PVC and a cone filter get the job done for a whole lot less dough ;)
but not everone is going for the hard core look of PVC. and dosn't PVC get hard and brittle after it sets in the sun too long???
stu
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Black ABS is sun resistant
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The black pipe, ABS, has some advantages over PVC. It's lighter, more resistant to tempurature changes and chemicals plus it's more flexible than PVC. It's already black too. I've always wondered if a steam box like woodworkers use could be used to shape it.
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I wondered if one of those plastic
welder setups from Harbor could
fuse sections together, that or have
a blow mold made to mas produce
these things, and for less than $$$
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You're thinking like me. I wonder why nobody else seems to want to mass produce snorkels for the US market? The cost to manufacture can't be too much after start up.
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???What about bending exhaust tubing to fit? It would be smooth the parts and equipment is already there and you could make different sizes 2.5" to 4.0". any one tried that yet?
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The black pipe, ABS, has some advantages over PVC. It's lighter, more resistant to tempurature changes and chemicals plus it's more flexible than PVC. It's already black too. I've always wondered if a steam box like woodworkers use could be used to shape it.
Make friends with an electrician they have a heat box that thay use to shape plastic conduit for underground work it will shape ABS. or make your own with sheet metal and you BBQ.
Thanks
Wayne
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I wondered if one of those plastic
welder setups from Harbor could
fuse sections together, that or have
a blow mold made to mas produce
these things, and for less than $$$
Yes it works but you have to use abs as filler. plastic is like metal hard to mix different plastics but some will stick to others. try a small bit of it with your soldering iron or should I say someone elses soldering iron. it works.
Thanks
Wayne
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so pics any one?
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I wondered if one of those plastic
welder setups from Harbor could
fuse sections together, that or have
a blow mold made to mas produce
these things, and for less than $$$
well i think after everything started to add up when building one it might not be as cheap. new filter if the snorkle dosn't go into factory air box, hose clamps, plastic, brackets, rubber cuplers, ect... after you add all those charges up it wouldn't be so cheap. :-/
stu
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So are you wimping out of the challenge allready ???
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cheap and effective, not as good as a RRO one but works ok.  cost 0 dollors,  beat that! :P ;D
EDIT: 5 dollors in silicone! lol
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/smaller%20snorkel%20pic.JPG)
stu
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Looks like a good way to drown your
engine in a water crossing ;D
Wild
Side Note:
THIS IS POST 2700 8)
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Side Note:
THIS IS POST 2700  8)
i'm comin! i have the next 2 weeks off from school, betta watch ya back! 8) ;D
stu
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I've installed the safari snorkel to mine.
Install is easy if you take your time and follow the instructions, it comes with a template to stick on your fender that has all the necessary holes marked on it so it's just drill and bolt on really.
I found the hose under the fender that joins the snorkel to the original air intake a bit short in th over lap so I replaced mine with a longer bit of good quality rubber hose, other than that the kit has all you need in it.
I went to a bit more effort than most to seal mine properly seems it spends alot of time in rivers, instead of using silicone I used a 3m product called scotch weld
DP 8005 which is more like a cement that will bond rubber to LDP (what the snorkels made of) . I did silicone it first then tested it in the river but still found water to be getting in some where with the silicone that when I took it off and 3m'd it all up ;D.
Don't for get to seal any drain holes in your air box etc I put a small tap in mine so I could open it and check if any water is getting in and drain any rain water that might find it's way in.
I only fitted mine for the fact that I play in water alot and was not looking for the ram air effect to increase HP which I haven't noticed any way ::) so I'd say if you after extra HP you won't find it with a snorkel.
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/snoffited.JPG)
Cheers Shane
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It's MY Gnewt on the RRO page! It has paid for itself more than once!
(http://www.rocky-road.com/media/kicksnorkel.jpg)
I love it!
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It's MY Gnewt on the RRO page! It has paid for itself more than once!
([url]http://www.rocky-road.com/media/kicksnorkel.jpg[/url])
I love it!
Hi Bob!
(http://community.the-underdogs.org/smiley/happy/wave.gif)
We gonna do Lion's back this EJS? Last year was exciting!
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We gonna do Lion's back this EJS? Last year was exciting!
You betcha Heather! Can you bring a camcorder this year? And this year, YOU can drive, right? We'll still take the Gnewt if you want, but I KNOW you can do it!
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yea i ordered mine cause im always playin in water ..... but im curious how big the holes are that u have to drill in
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I have an ARB snorkel also. Real easy to install. Looks good and for the money, it's paid for its self!!!
It just depends on what you want and have. The ARB looks good but the PVC one's are cheep and if its a trail bomer I'd go that way.
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im phyced for mine.... but its on backorder and they said it would be here next week... any one know how big the holes are u have to drill and if i can just drill em or if i gotta use a cutting tool to get em out...... yea i deff needed it i had some close calls and i love playen in the water as bad as that is lol
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I can't find the instructions that came with mine but from memory the hole is around 80 mm's. I used a hole saw to do mine. Remember to take your time aligning the template or you'll have a chet fight trying to make things fit.
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thanx...... now i no what im in for and it is getten me so mad that the thing is on back order lol
-mo
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Mo,
heres the point of no return....
(http://www.eye-irritant.com/august2004/hole rs.JPG)
;D ;D
Did you make sure you ordered the right one as there is one for th 8v and one for the 16v ?
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ummm idk now im callen rocky road .... cause all it said was a snorkel for up to a 94 tracker lol
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Just rang a mate who's the local ARB agent and checked part #'s for ya,
8v is # SS 800 HF, Covers Carb and TBI
16v is # SS 850 HF,Covers all MPI
;D
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yea i apreciate that ..... but the only thing is that rocky road hasnt gotten one in in about 2 years!!!!!! but "supposedly" they might be getten one in next week. yea any one know any where else i can pick one up from
-mo
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Go straight to http://www.arbusa.com/ and ask if you can order direct from them and if not who's the closest agent.
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thanx man i appreciate that cause its rediculous that they list somethin that takes them 2 yrs to get u know what i mean...... thanx...
-mo
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You betcha Heather!  Can you bring a camcorder this year?  And this year, YOU can drive, right?  We'll still take the Gnewt if you want, but I KNOW you can do it!
Well.. I didn't get a camcorder for christmas :( but I'm hoping I can get one before EJS! I've really been wanting one. You can only say so much in pictures sometimes.
I dunno... Thinking about taking my truck up there gives me the chills.. I'll have to see how it drives with swaybars first. I think the new Toyota disc brakes could handle it though..
:)
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I think the new Toyota disc brakes could handle it though..
Darlin', with the gearing you have on YOUR trucklet, no WAY would you need brakes at ALL on Lions Back! I didn't use the Gnewt's brakes last year!
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rocky road hasnt gotten one in  in about 2 years!!!!!! but "supposedly" they might be getten one in next week. yea any one know any where else i can pick one up from
When I ordered mine (from RRO), it only took 'em a week or two to get it in. I cut my hole with a metal-cutting blade in the saber saw (I didn't have an 82mm hole saw).
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how long ago u order it?
-mo
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how long ago u order it?
Couple of years... ::)
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At our MN state owned off road parks they just banned vehicles with snorkles to keep the tree huggers happy. Lame. >:(
Mike
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At our MN state owned off road parks they just banned vehicles with snorkles to keep the tree huggers happy. Lame. >:(
Mike
wtf? how does a snorkel affect the trees? does it make the trees uneasy with thier branches? wtf ???
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wtf? how does a snorkel affect the trees? does it make the trees uneasy with thier branches? wtf  ???
They scare the trees.
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wtf? how does a snorkel affect the trees? does it make the trees uneasy with thier branches? wtf ???
No they say that oils leak into the water supply from rigs durring water crossings. They say that snorkels encorage that kind of behavior. I know its stupid but nothing I can do about it. the f--kin treehuggers have a lot of finacial backing in our areas. thats why private property has been such a big deal in recent years.
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At our MN state owned off road parks they just banned vehicles with snorkles to keep the tree huggers happy. Lame.  >:(
Mike
thats insane, soon they will ban boggers because they tear up terrain too much! >:(
stu
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No they say that oils leak into the water supply from rigs durring water crossings. They say that snorkels encorage that kind of behavior. I know its stupid but nothing I can do about it. the f--kin treehuggers have a lot of finacial backing in our areas. thats why private property has been such a big deal in recent years.
Arh that B/S, Man I hate that sort of thinking !!!
May be you should point out that they need to ban air planes over you state in case they happen to drip oil from above into the streams and rivers as well. :o
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umm... a little rediculous ??? ???
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May be you should point out that they need to ban air planes over you state in case they happen to drip oil from above into the streams and rivers as well. :o
No kidding. Where does the exhaust from every boat go!
::)
Mike
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No kidding. Where does the exhaust from every boat go!
Aw, c'mon Mike - boats don't have exhaust! They'd need mufflers if they had exhaust! I bet you can't run a snorkel on a BOAT, either - you just KNOW it would lead to some kind of hooliganism! So...
I should be able to wheel my vehicle with Colorado tags (and a snorkel) there, because it's legal in Colorado, right?
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No snorkels allowed on state property. Private is totally different.
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umm, shop-vac hose anyone. It works! :D But I went with something a bit more durable...flexible PVC from the pool store. I don't think it suffers the ill effects of sunlight like its hard plasticy couterpart. And it bends pretty good, as long as its warm. A 90degree turn is pretty tough though, probably wanna seal up an elbow at that point.