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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: S.Sidekick on March 13, 2007, 01:59:20 PM
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i am driving to college everyday and am tires of the A/T getting stuck in the mud. i need mud tires that will last long and keep tread. does any one have any idea/experience. wuts the best tire for the sidekick?
thanks ??? ??? ???
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bfg mud terrain works for me
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bfg makes a great a/t tire but id sacrifice a little streetability and go with the ssr or trxus
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If you want reasonable price and good wear try ebay.
Some of the major tire mfg's make off brands, good tires and good value.
I run them and have bought a few sets for my wheelin' buddies too.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/245-75-16-BRAND-NEW-ELECTRA-IRONMAN-PM66-A-T-TIRES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66474QQitemZ110102931201QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/245-75-16-BRAND-NEW-SPARTAN-RADIAL-RT-AT-E-4-TIRES_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66474QQitemZ110102855611QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/285-75-16-BRAND-NEW-DURANGO-MUD-AND-AT-TIRES-16_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66474QQitemZ110102530023QQrdZ1
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LT-245-75-R-16-10-PLY-MUD-GRIPS-NEW-TIRES-TRUCK-JEEP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66474QQitemZ220088493256
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LT-235-75-R-15-MUD-GRIPS-NEW-TIRES-TRUCK-JEEP_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66473QQitemZ220089297796
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/31-10-50-15-PERFORMER-MT-NEW-TIRES-JEEP-MUD-TRUCK-LOOK_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ66473QQitemZ220090396917
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An excellent choice is Maxxis Trepador 8060.
I run with 235/75/15. They are 1st generation tyres, very light (for mud tyres), very good on street( they have rotation, not like bf goodrich as they are very slippy- at least here in Greece) costs me 380euro on January(about 480$)
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go with the bfg mud terrains thats what i run and most of my buddys they do real good offroad and not bad on the street, they suck in snow though keep the all terains around for the winter. ;)
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bfg mt's are too damn much..im only 18 with a p/t job
i need a cheap reliable tire<<hard to find these days
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hah, sound like me /\
I was looking into Kuhmo MTs and Dunlop Mud Rovers, both of which are around 90 bucks a tire for 235/75/R15s on TireRack.
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Yeah, what happened to the day of $50 truck tires? I'm getting old I guess.
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you guys gotta try prostreetonline.com... pretty cheap tires check these out
http://www.prostreetonline.com/sku/tir-20574.html
90 bucks for 31's!!
http://www.prostreetonline.com/sku/tir-20719.html
also 90 bucks for 31's!!
great deals on here guys
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bfg mud terrain or swamper ltb
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i know this is going to sound really weird to all.....
but i bought a set of tires from www.high-tec-retreading.com......have about 6,000 miles and no wear showing on them at all, these things are wearing like iron!! i've had them since october, and run them thru their paces.....conquered mud, ice, snow all real well....the other cool thing about them is they dont need to be balanced at all, because of the way their made they are perfectly balanced, unlike a brand new tire....best of all mine were $260 shipped to my house....i opted for the most aggressive tire, the OTR MUD 235/75/15.....this is a daily driver as well
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hey great link on hightecretreading.com. just placed an order through them
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Those re-treads with green diamonds look interesting:
http://high-tec-retreading.com//DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=249&tabindex=3 (http://high-tec-retreading.com//DesktopDefault.aspx?tabid=249&tabindex=3)
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great to hear that you are trying out the retreads....remember to take your wheel weights off once ya get them mounted....and DONT balance them.......i also wondered about the green diamond tires, but they were more money.....i paid $250 for the whole tracker, i didnt wanna pay a ton more for my tires than the whole damn trucklet...so i went the cheapest way out....by the way...i've noticed that the tires seem to need a crotch hair more air than normal tires....i run mine at 26psi, and she still rides like a hillbilly cadillac!
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superswamper LTB cheap and work awsome and pretty quite on the street
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I had a set of High Tec's OTR Muds on my wife's 03 Grand Vitara. They had the green diamonds for increased winter traction. We liked their performance...aside from the fact that they were as loud as Boggers on the road...but hated the customer service and problems we had with the tires. First it took over a month to get our tires. Then after we finally got them one fell apart after less than 400 miles. After more stupidity and BS they sent me a new replacement tire pretty fast. Fast forward most of a year and I realize two of the four road tires have portions where the tread seems to be loose of the sidewall. It took two emails and a phone call before I got a response and was then told to call back in a few weeks. A few weeks later I called again and was told they wouldn't be making our size in the MT anymore so I was SOL unless I wanted the AT pattern.
Considering the crappy service thus far I told the guy off and hung up.
About 2 weeks later my wife was involved in an accident and the vehicle was totaled. I didn't bother getting the tires off of it.
I found a deal on some new Kumho MT's on Ebay for even less than the HighTec's cost me a year before and siped them myself. I'm aware of their shortcomings but so far they're doing great under the wife's DD.
From these experiences I recommend people to avoid HighTec. If I could do it over again I'd have bought new tires somewhere else, even paying retail locally.
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ive had problems with the retreads too, on an f150.....one came apart, and eventually they replaced it, but it was the worst customer service i have ever experienced >:(
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when the seperation of your tires occured, what was the psi that you were running in them?? the reason i ask this is because on the website, they stearnly warn about not running enough psi in them, the tire will actually melt the vulcanized rubber holding them all together, and the tire will seperate from the carcass....by the way...it only took about a week and a half or so to get my tires at my house up here in BFE country, mi
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ive heard a bunch of horror stories on them too /\
thats why i changed my mind about ordering them and just bought some used tires to hold me over til I get some more cash for 30"s or 31"s to replace the 235/75/R15's.
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wow....my brother swears by these tires, he has a 1996 ford ranger with a procomp 6" lift, and a 302.....he runs some 35's from high tec retreading, and this is his third or forth set that he is on now....the truck has been goin since 99 or so with these tires and the lift.....my brother is the reason that i went with the retreads, because he has had such great luck with them....the only complaint that he has ever had was that he was doing a bigass burnout and a corner lug got ripped off, but he was in 4th with the 302 pinned out...so im sure it was due to EXCESSIVE TIRESPIN.....but...i guess its like the saying goes.....opinions are like |removethispart|@$$holes....everyones got one.......some smell funny, thou..... ;D
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i am driving to college everyday and am tires of the A/T getting stuck in the mud. i need mud tires that will last long and keep tread. does any one have any idea/experience. wuts the best tire for the sidekick?
thanks ??? ??? ???
I just put 31" MT on my Toy p'up from Pep Boys. Very aggressive lugs with siping which are good for wet roads. Don't buy a MT for road use without siping in the lugs, as they skid too easy. They also have nice sidewall lugs, and are very quite (for a MT) on the road. Plus, they are made by Cooper so it's not really off, off brand.
They were $99 a tire, with a Buy3get1 free rebate to boot. That's $298 for 4 tires, new. Great deal, and can't speak highly enuff of them. Just wish they made 33's and 35's :(
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wow LTB's up here in montreal $225 each installed 31x10.5x15
I got some cavalier MUD KINGS 32x11.5x15 $775 tax and instalation included should be fine
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i had some cooper retread snow tires on my 2wd f-100, they were quite big lugs, but can't remember thier name for them. $65 a pop, and worked great in snow and mud.... hard packed snow and ice wasn't as good. i've never had trouble with thier retreads though, and that's all i run in the winter.
i plan to get a set of the coopers for my asuna sunrunner ( what kinda name is that eh) once i get it running good enough
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old saying you get what you pay for... I'll stick with bfgs. they stad behind there tire with no hassles.
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what about the old saying "your paying for the name"?? i was just budgeting......and trying to share my experiences.....i wasnt out to pay as much as i paid for my tracker, for just 1 damn tire....and for some cheap retreads, im very happy with them.....thats all im saying......i think some of you guys are crazy when ya spend houndreds per tire....considering i have $500 into my tracker all together
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wasn't trying to be personal about anything. the guy was just asking opinions. just like ford , chevy , zuk , everybody has there own preference. it helps to have a friend that owns a tire store, that way you get them at his cost
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I had a great experience with the 31" Maxxis Buckshots... $125 a tire I here. I am now rocking 33" Big O XT's!!! Talking about a pricey tire!!!
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a few years ago at moab I gashed a sidewall on my bfgs. they have a 40' trailer at the jeep safari. set-up with tire machines and spin balancers. they replaced it for 40 bucks. and they knew how i gashed it , no questions asked.
he said must have hit something on the road huh!!! thats why i've been running them since.
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I bought the tires from Pep Boys also. They are called Definity M/T. I got the 235/75/15 tires for $300 ;D. They had a buy 4 and get 1 free deal going on at the time. I was told that these tires were made by Kuhmo. Been on since October and show no signs of wear. This is a daily driver :).
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I see the origininal poster is from Washington State my suggestion would be go to your local Les Schwab Dealer and tell him what your requirements are, I'm sure he can supply you wiith something to fill your needs. If you have problems with the tires the good thing about Schwab is you can walk into any of there stores and get service almost anywhere in the Northwestern US.
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i know this is going to sound really weird to all.....
but i bought a set of tires from www.high-tec-retreading.com......have about 6,000 miles and no wear showing on them at all, these things are wearing like iron!! i've had them since october, and run them thru their paces.....conquered mud, ice, snow all real well....the other cool thing about them is they dont need to be balanced at all, because of the way their made they are perfectly balanced, unlike a brand new tire....best of all mine were $260 shipped to my house....i opted for the most aggressive tire, the OTR MUD 235/75/15.....this is a daily driver as well
The thought of running recaps or retreads literally scares the hell out of me as an Ex or Retired Over the Road Driver I've seen to many failures of retreads on the drivers much less on a steering axle to seriously consider the use of them. In Many states it's against the law to even use retreads on a steering axle due to their high failure rate. I know a lot of tire stores won't even consider mounting them on a steering axle for that very reason on an over the road rig much less a passenger car.
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I bought a set of Pro Comp MT's 31 x 10.50's last fall on the buy 3 get one free sale at nsor.com. They came out to something like $600 cdn shipped and arrived in less than a week. Took them to cdn tire and got them mounted and balanced for another $60.
They have this deal running again for the month of March
This winter they have been great and I hardly noticed a difference between them and my old 205 75's. Maybe it is because they were brand new but often the roads are snow and ice covered and I didn't really have any issues with them at all.
I don't know how they wear because i only used them through one winter. Noise and ride is pretty good too.
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I'm going to be ordering these in a week or two:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=General&tireModel=Grabber+AT+2&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=175SR5GRAT2OWL&fromCompare1=yes&place=3
I buy all my tires at tirerack & have been pleased with the quality & price.
The reviews on this tire seem pretty good & they have a good treadwear rating, so, I guess I'll see how they work next time I go up to camp
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Weird, I'm not getting notifications of replies. ???
We were running about 26psi. Any higher and the side lugs wouldn't have even been touching.
It wasn't a psi issue, it was a crappy quality control issue. Then it became a customer service issue...never again.
Check eBay, I got a set of 225/75R16 Kumho muds for the wife's XL7 for $350 delivered to my door.
Oh yeah, I highly recommend siping the tires. Either pay to have a tire place do it or buy a knife and do it yourself (what I did). Makes a world of difference. All I own are MT's now.
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The thought of running recaps or retreads literally scares the hell out of me as an Ex or Retired Over the Road Driver I've seen to many failures of retreads on the drivers much less on a steering axle to seriously consider the use of them. In Many states it's against the law to even use retreads on a steering axle due to their high failure rate. I know a lot of tire stores won't even consider mounting them on a steering axle for that very reason on an over the road rig much less a passenger car.
Are there any standards for retreading tyres in the US? In the UK we have (IIRC) a British Standard. Years ago retreads on passenger vehicles used to be considered quite unreliable. Their official speed rating was only 50mph. The technology (the glue?) has improved over the years and most remoulds are rated at 90mph (there is a load rating too). Remoulded MTs are commonly used over here and failures seem to be quite low. I ran Colway MTs for around 12,000 miles without any real problems, I had some cracking of the tread but I'm certain that that was because I ran them under pressure a couple of times.
I think that pretty much all lorry tyres are remoulded up to three times.
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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Road+Venture+MT+834
The Road Venture MT 834 is an Off-Road Maximum Traction category light truck tire designed to provide "take you anywhere" off-road traction with "bring you home again" highway manners. The Road Venture MT 834 was developed to meet the needs of pickup truck and sport utility vehicle drivers, as well as, off-road racers who desire maximum off-road traction.
you cant beat these for the money.
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I like Cooper A/T's. Bought on 215's for my SJ410 for under $300.
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I don't know if re-caps are anymore failure prone than new tires.
I haven't worn out a tire in years. When they get over 5 years old they fly apart. The tire dealers around here will only pro-rate or replace them under warranty during the first five years.
I'm talking about new tires, not re-caps.
Driving on California freeways might be part of the problem. But I don't remember this being a problem until the last 10 years or so.
Maybe the EPA ordered a change in tire materials like they did to auto paint a few years ago, causing all those Chevy and Ford paint failures.