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Title: sidekick spool info
Post by: ChileKick on December 21, 2004, 01:13:57 AM
Hi everyone , I'm thinking about building my own rear spool but have a couple of doubts regarding the size , and as my sidekick is 91 carbureted I was wondering if the rear axles in newer (94-up) have the same size or number of teeth in the axle itself the ones that couple with the spool on each side , does anybody know?
thanks
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: hcgalvin on December 21, 2004, 01:54:41 AM
Yes, the rear is the same in all sidekick and tracker models. They are 26 spline. The only ones that are different are the fronts.

The only thing that really changes in the rear is the differential ratios, if you have a manual, you most likely have 5.12 gears, if you have a 3 speed auto, you have 4.62's, and if you have a 4 speed auto (overdrive) you have the 5.12's.

Also, there are 10 bolt and 12 bolt rear ends. Usually 92+ are 12 bolt (most of them with ABS brakes in the rear) and 91- 89 are usually 10 bolt.

;)

I understand you are going to make one, I'll tell you that purchasing one will only cost you $99 bucks, otherwise, why not just weld the rear? (lincoln locker)
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: 1bigtracker on December 21, 2004, 03:19:23 AM
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I understand you are going to make one, I'll tell you that purchasing one will only cost you $99 bucks, otherwise, why not just weld the rear? (lincoln locker)

did it, now 2 sets of axle shafts into it and it only get 100 road miles a year!  have hed it welded for 2 years.  i like it because of traction but hate the tire ware and road manners.

stu
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: hcgalvin on December 21, 2004, 03:22:55 AM
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did it, now 2 sets of axle shafts into it and it only get 100 road miles a year!  have hed it welded for 2 years.  i like it because of traction but hate the tire ware and road manners.

stu



Yeah, I was popping shafts left and right with the spool in my truck.
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 21, 2004, 04:20:14 AM
Some new info, it was there all the time
I just noticed it  ::)

The 3 speed auto Trackers with a 16V
engine came with 4.30 diff gears, I don't
know if the SideKicks came that way also,
I would assume so but ???

Wild
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: hcgalvin on December 21, 2004, 05:48:37 AM
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Some new info, it was there all the time
I just noticed it  ::)

The 3 speed auto Trackers with a 16V
engine came with 4.30 diff gears, I don't
know if the SideKicks came that way also,
I would assume so but ???

Wild


I'd never heard of 4.30 at all. I know overseas you get 4.88's... I wonder if the other poster is absolutely sure.
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: mrfuelish on December 21, 2004, 07:06:15 AM
I have a set of 4.30's and a set of 4.88's, I think the 4.30's were a california only type of thing for the smog standards(so many rev's per mile) they look strong!
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: hcgalvin on December 21, 2004, 07:42:16 AM
 :P

So much yet I have to learn... when you think you know it all..

::)

Thanks for the info.

:)
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 21, 2004, 10:18:12 AM
I got the info from the USDOT spec sheet
for the 94 GEO Tracker, listed under 16V
engine drive line specs (California specs)
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: real_red_wagon on December 21, 2004, 11:34:23 AM
    My truck had 4.30's  :) now it's got 5.12's  ;D  big difference mines a '95 16v tracker 3 speed auto I don't know if it's california emissions or not it was originaly purchased in buffalo NY
   I was thinking of putting a spool in it over the winter but I'm having second thoughts especialy after hearing about broken shafts :o is it really that much harder on the shafts than say a powertrax locker ???
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 21, 2004, 11:40:02 AM
A locker, will ratchet and allows some
differential effect, a spool does not and
twists alxes or slips a tire

Wild
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: TN_Tracker on December 21, 2004, 11:52:13 AM
Yep, 4.30 is California emissions only.
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: 97TRAKIN on December 21, 2004, 01:41:22 PM
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Yep, 4.30 is California emissions only.


^^^TRUE!^^^

What ratio did the 1.3 Sidekicks have? I forgot but I now it was low.
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: Zukipilot on December 21, 2004, 10:14:50 PM
I think a 5.62 :-/
Zig
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: explosivo on December 21, 2004, 10:17:13 PM
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I think a 5.62 :-/
Zig

5.38 I believe... but he said it was a 91, didn't he? ???
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: Zukipilot on December 22, 2004, 01:58:57 AM
I should of quoted the "what comes with a 1.3" :P

1.3L only came in the 89's here in the USA. And I was thinking they had 5.62, but I'm not real posative about it.

Zig
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 22, 2004, 02:16:26 AM
1.3L SideKick had a 5.62 R&P
5.38 is the aftermarket that is
sold for the Sammy, I installed
a set into Shoyrtt's Sammy   ;)

Wild
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: flexmonger on December 22, 2004, 05:29:28 PM
  90+ Sidekicks from CA. with 5 speed tranny and 4 doors came with the possible 5.38's. Very rare  and hard to find. Ask me how I know.
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 22, 2004, 08:38:41 PM
That would tend to make sence in a
4 door, tho the 16V 4 door came with
5.12 I thought, So how do you know ???
You need one or have one ?
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: 97TRAKIN on December 23, 2004, 01:32:04 AM
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That would tend to make sence in a
4 door, tho the 16V 4 door came with
5.12 I thought,


He said from CA.
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: whitfield on December 24, 2004, 02:53:03 AM
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Some new info, it was there all the time
I just noticed it  ::)

The 3 speed auto Trackers with a 16V
engine came with 4.30 diff gears, I don't
know if the SideKicks came that way also,
I would assume so but ???

Wild



Hmmm,   I'm driving a 98 3spd auto as a DD, Maybe I should check.   THis thing is screaming 4200 at 70mph
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 24, 2004, 03:12:39 AM
Thats the same as me with 5.83s
on 33 swampers, bone stock with
235 tires was 4000 at 70 MPH

I'd say you got 4.62 R and Ps

Wild
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: SnoFalls on December 24, 2004, 08:25:34 AM
4200 is screaming ... I thought that's where it started to wake up
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: flexmonger on December 26, 2004, 12:39:37 PM
  Try driving a 1.3 FI sammy with 5.38 gears and a 6.5 tcase.  At 65 it is pulling about 4700 rpms. The  harmonics those rpm's create is nerve racking.
  Wildgoody, I have kick 5.38's in the hybrid rear and a spare 5.38 pumpkin from CA. The zuk recycler had to pull  quite a few diffs to find me one. You know where to find any?
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: wildgoody on December 26, 2004, 01:03:33 PM
I only know of the aftermarket
Yukon gears, they come in 5.38

What do 5.38s come in ? 1.3L Kicks ?
Title: Re: sidekick spool info
Post by: creekr549 on December 27, 2004, 12:54:02 PM
    Spend the money for a locker, will save you money in the long run.  and headache.