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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: r3cc0s on December 20, 2004, 11:52:13 AM

Title: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: r3cc0s on December 20, 2004, 11:52:13 AM
being the newer tracker owner
I threw in the 2.5" lift
I can't put anything larger I think than a 10.5 inch tire, and that requires backspacing of at least 1" to a 3.5

I currenlty own a good set of A/T which are more aggressive than most, (baiscally mud lugs with sipes)
and they are great for daily/snow/ice driving in my climate
however they are 235's which are relaitvely small

after seeing the swamper tsl radial at a 31" x 9.5, they seem to be exactly the size I need

however... is the extra inch going to really give me the extra clearance to get through anymore than I currently am?

also price is an issue... in a way
I was looking at the high tec retreads from this site
http://www.high-tec-retreading.com/sizes.html
I think the OTR mud is the same as the dunlop mud rover
however I'm not a fan of the way it looks, I don't think my car has the power to self clean as much as perhaps the "mud" onese they have there
the mud's look almost like a swamper
but as you can see the largest they have is a 30 x 9.5 15..
but damn they have good prices

i'm kind of debating between the 2, I belive the TSL radials are going to be along the lines of 184 a piece, compared to the crazy $59.99 I would look at with high-tec

any advice?

p.s. as I do have a set of the a/t's for daily driving, i'm looking specifically for offroad purpose, which is why i'm looking at the TSL's
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Chief on December 20, 2004, 12:33:01 PM
Check it: http://www.tyres1.com/search/search.cgi?web_code=GMT

Search their website. I just picked up 4 LTB's for 415, brand new.  ;D
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Digger on December 20, 2004, 12:35:59 PM
I got my TSL radials at National Tire and Wheel in Wheeling WV. They were only $100 each for the 31x9.50x15" size, no shipping cause I picked them up. Surely the shipping wouldn't cost $84 each!
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: 95xl7 on December 20, 2004, 12:43:07 PM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Venture+MT&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=095QR5VMTOWL&fromCompare1=yes

(http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/kumho/ku_road_venture_mt.jpg)
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Real_Red_Sammi on December 20, 2004, 12:59:37 PM
    Depends on how much you want to spend. I would go with the dunlop mud rovers, they range from 235's all the way to 35 x 12.5 (I got the 35 x 12.5) and there fairly cheap. Mud rovers have never let me, or my brother down, and we Make It Hert on a daily basis!!!
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: real_red_wagon on December 20, 2004, 01:06:15 PM
     Myself, the Real Red Sammi, and Lawdog have at one time or another all had Dunlop Mud Rovers what a great tyre I can't say enough good things about them I currently have a set of 31x10.5 MTR's and hate them my 235/75 Mud rovers could wheel the piss out of em.
 
   Don't be afraid of being able to spin em there very light for what they are. the Lawdog runs 33x12.5 with a 1.3 and 4.57 gears no problems ;D the Real Red Sammi runs 35x12.5 with a 1.6 and until just recently he still had stock gears :D
 
     Swampers aren't bad they can be very heavy :o in comparison and expensive. I've heard good and bad about the retreads :P tirerack.com has Dunlops in 31x10.5's for $91  I'd say get the Mud Rovers and make it hert!!! ;D


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I hope the spare will get me home :o
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: HotRod on December 20, 2004, 01:09:30 PM
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I hope the spare will get me home

If it doesn't rip off the tailgate ;D
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: explosivo on December 20, 2004, 10:46:53 PM
What you need are LTBs

33x13.50's to be exact




$350


Plus shipping ;)
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Cwkick on December 21, 2004, 01:12:57 AM
Keith has Hi-Tech retreads on his Tracker and seems to be VERY happy with them.

Cwkick
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: 1bigtracker on December 21, 2004, 03:23:19 AM
i love my swampers!  heavy, yes.  price, not bad   off road ability, better than i thought!  great tires.  i would try to find some aluminum rims to lighten the rotating(sp) mass.

stu
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: wildgoody on December 21, 2004, 04:44:59 AM
31 11.5 LTBs  $100 ea
You won't regret it for mud

Boggers are like $175 for
the same size 31 12.5
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Digger on December 21, 2004, 06:17:13 AM
My 31x9.50x15" TSL radials didn't seem a whole lot heavier than the 215's on stock rims I was running before... The performance was definately worth stepping up to swampers though... In my group last sunday, a Cherokee running 32" mud terrains(recaps, Hitec retreads) couldn't even get to some of the places we were going with swampers... they packed up with mud so much, they became slicks while the swampers would fling the goo out of the tread almost instantly...
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: wildgoody on December 21, 2004, 06:26:35 AM
We have some sticky clay, the kind that sticks
to your shoes until you are 2" taller  :)  and the
swampers shed that stuff like they were coated
with teflon

Wild
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Speedracer7c on December 21, 2004, 06:27:52 AM
There is a big difference in the mud terrain's and the mud terrain copies. My BFG's clean out very well.
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: HUMZUKI on December 21, 2004, 07:34:52 AM
Iv got 31 LTB's and love'em. I mean can you even find another tire for less? Let alone that agressive for anyware near that.
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: DirtDevil on December 21, 2004, 07:39:15 AM
i would never buy a bfg MT, ive seen so many of there sidewalls ripp.. also with there AT.. if your looking for the best all around tire for street, ice, snow, mud, rock, loggin roads, id go for the interco trxus MT's.  they've never let me down, nor any body I know with them. But for off road only, LTBs are perfect.. im buyin a set for my LWB sami probably 8)
Title: Re: looking for good mudders for a budget
Post by: Grandmaster on December 26, 2004, 03:08:46 AM
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[url]http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Venture+MT&vehicleSearch=false&partnum=095QR5VMTOWL&fromCompare1=yes[/url]

([url]http://www.tirerack.com/images/tires/kumho/ku_road_venture_mt.jpg[/url])


I've been running these since early summer. Amazing tire.