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Title: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 05, 2007, 07:54:47 AM: ok so i have toyota axles under my samari and stock springs well i want to swap some longer bigger leaf springs. should i use wrangler springs with the bolt in kit? ive been seeing cj leaf springs in samaris whats the deal with those? and i have a set of stock toyota leaf springs how about those ? please give me some info
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 05, 2007, 08:17:21 AM: It depends, what size tire do you want to run? if you want 34-36 get some old man emu lift springs, there a bit pricy but they are nice and get the job done.

hope that helps

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Bigzook on April 05, 2007, 08:24:41 AM: I have been told to never use Emu's in a spring over config. They will bend. Brent had the Boneyez springs made for spring over lift's
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: chet on April 05, 2007, 08:53:10 AM: use YJ's there is kits out there to install them. they lfex like mad!
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 05, 2007, 07:42:58 PM: well i still have to move my perches in because of the toyota axles and i read that its a pain in the but to run wrangler springs. you have to build like a 1 inch block so you can get the 3rd member out and then raise your steering even more to clear the springs. kinda sounds like a pain in ass to do well see id rather try to find a set of stock leaf springs im trying to built this rig for under 1000 dollers and make it go anywhere my friends more expensive rigs can go just so i can brag. ill be running 33s for right now UNLESS you guys think my 1.3 can turn a set of 35s with just the 4.10 gearing in the axles?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: mlovetripp0 on April 05, 2007, 09:58:09 PM: $1000 limit for a stock 1.3 to run 35s balls out
that could be tuff to do
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 05, 2007, 11:22:29 PM: a 4.10 axle with some 6.5:1 T-case gears. It would have plenty of juice to turn them then.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 06, 2007, 07:38:12 PM: umm ill have to look in to the gears for the transfer case so whats the word on leaf springs? toyota (free) jeep (scarp yard) ?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 07, 2007, 10:21:17 AM: Has anyone ever put toyota leafs under there sammi?
i havent heard about anyone doing it, but im sure some one had to of.

Does anyone know how long a toyota spring is compared to a YJ spring?

I would go with the YJ springs, there dam easy to come by and there pretty cheap.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 07, 2007, 08:10:28 PM: i found 4 springs (front and rear) for 100 bucks plus shipping is this a good deal ?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 08, 2007, 10:06:33 AM: Stock YJ springs? If so i think thats an alright deal, doesnt seem to far out of wack price wise.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 08, 2007, 03:52:00 PM: now what would be the best way to mount them to my axle i have to out board my springs or move my perches ? and what about the front i heard that i wont be able to pull my third member out if i do the swap ?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 08, 2007, 05:57:00 PM: Well if your putting a toyota axle under it, you should get a toyota axle to samurai kit from SKY. Its a 100 bucks and it just gives you the stuff to run the axle. From what i know everthing should work the same, you just move your perches.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: mlovetripp0 on April 08, 2007, 08:04:19 PM: i paid $100 for 4x yj springs no ship
i say out board the springs and make the lil zuk little longer
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Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: costa 05 on April 09, 2007, 05:33:47 AM: If they are yota springs just make a a perch in this shape. http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/costa05/DSC00398.jpg
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 09, 2007, 04:09:25 PM: i was looking at that kit and does that do only one axle or both? because i would have to buy two kits wouldnt i?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 10, 2007, 12:52:54 AM: That kit is for the front axle only, you dont need that kit for the rear. All you have to do for the rear is move the perches in on the axle, to match the sammis width.

So for the front you just need the Toyota to samurai kit
and for the rear you just need 2 perches.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 10, 2007, 07:51:27 PM: see id prefer not to move my perches instead just weld a plate on top of the stock perch and re drill the center pin but im not to sure how this would work on the front end... im going to tear in to it friday hopefully
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 11, 2007, 08:09:48 AM: For the front, on the short side of the axle, you do weld a plate onto that perch, but you have to move the other side over.

How come you dont want to move the perches in?

Do you have a normall center position toyota axle? like a non modifyed one?

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 11, 2007, 02:34:27 PM: there stock toyota axles not modified or anything the reason i dont want to move the perches is i dont know if i trust my welding..... ::) i have both a stick and a mig welded and ive onlyu welded a few things not a major suspension mount. i guess ill just try it and see what happens should i stick weld it or mig weld it?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 11, 2007, 11:05:07 PM: MIG is probably your best bet, its quite a bit easyer to use than stick. Exspeilly if you havnt dont much welding with it. You also have to weld the perches on and take into consideration that the axle can warp and weaken, if heated to much.
You just have to make sure you set up your welder some what set up right for the thickness of the metal. Maybe a few amps lower if you have to.

Isnt running a non off-set yota axle going to burtalize your T-case mounts?
Iv heard some people have that problem, but there mounts were stock.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 12, 2007, 12:34:30 PM: i have no idea this is the first samauri i ever owned it was kinda of a spur of the moment purchase. it was somebodys un finished project... dont they sell upgraded mounts?
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: Amilla on April 12, 2007, 01:31:40 PM: Ya you can get new T-case mounts, theres a ton of differnt kinds, not 100% sure which one is the best.

All the stuff you have to do is pretty easy stuff, none of the stuff should be to hard to weld. Just take your time with it. should turn out cool, and practice welding befor hahha you do the axle welds.

Amilla
Title: Re: which leaf springs should i use?
Post by: bryans 86 on April 12, 2007, 08:14:26 PM: should i pull my axles out also my dad said i should so i can throughly clean every thing out after i weld it ?