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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: MKOLSEN22 on May 13, 2007, 06:45:09 PM
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I'm in the process of designing some front differential drop brackets for the Track-Kicks and just wanted some input from the group.
First off the brackets that I am designing are different from what is currently available (or should I say not available seperatly ie. Calmini).
My question is this, would any one out there be interested in a 2" drop bracket as well as a 3" drop bracket? With the design that I am working on either one would be fairly easy to make. Just wondering what the interest would be in either size.
Let me know what you think. Thanks!!
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I bet tons of ppl would want them just cause you can't buy just them separetely anywhere...i would like a set too so i could make a custom lift
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I bet tons of ppl would want them just cause you can't buy just them separetely anywhere...i would like a set too so i could make a custom lift
Sounds good, but what size would you be interested in? Either the 2" or 3". I'm trying to decide on which size to produce first. Let me know. Thanks!
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i would like 3" for me please. have four off road rigs that would enjoy these, thanks.
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2 inch and I would buy! ASAP!!!!!
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2" because any lower and it wouldn't clear my skid plates, and it would possibly get hit more often if i didn't have skids there.
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Thanks for the responses. I'm not going to make any promises on a time line because of my busy schedule, but I have had a chance to get 1/2 of the brackets drawn up so far. It will probably go to the back burner untill the weekend again, but I plan to work on it some more come Saturday.
I've got precious little time during the week because it all seems to be spent on my family, work and going back to college after a 12 year break.
I'll keep you up to date as I go. If any one else is interested and has a preference on bracket size post up and let me know.
p.s. These brackets are going to be laser cut and cnc bent in an effort to have a very nice and accurate piece when they are ready. Thanks again!!
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put me on the list for some 2inchers
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Well, if I have measured them right, the Calmini brackets for the 3" kit lower the diff approximately 2" at each end and around 1/2" or so at the crossmember while the brackets for the 2" kit lower the ends about 1" with the same 1/2" crossmember bracket...
My skidplate comes down from the bumper, trusses the front A-arm mounts and extends back to the front diff crossmember, bolted in at all 3 places(bumper, arm mounts and crossmember). I would only have room for about 1" lower brackets without having to re-work my skidplate. Any lower than about 1" and my diff would be hitting the skid. That said, I would suggest sticking with the 2" drop primarily and the 3" drop for more extreme custom lifts over 3-4", like if someone wanted to add coil spacers to their Calmini 3" kit...
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Digger thanks for the measurements and the advice. Also thanks for mentioning the Calmini approach for the rear/pinion mount. I'll have to look into dealing with that critter as well. Points well taken.
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The rear will only drop a certain amount before the crossmember that supports it gets in the way, that's probably why the rear/pinion mount doesn't drop very far. In the end, the front diff housing tilts forward/down a little more than stock when using the Calmini kit, but it pretty much has to to get the drop needed. I don't think it hurts anything to tilt it a little at any rate.
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The measurements that I have taken agree with Digger's. I don't think 3" is practical the crossmember is in the way and any further rotation of the diff could cause problems with both the propshaft and the diff oil level.
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Here's an idea...
Would it be possible to incorporate the pinion mount "strap" idea into the rear lowering bracket. If you have to redo the mount at the pinion end anyway, it seems like it would be worth doing it as strong as possible to help support the housing where the pinion tends to stress it out and break it.
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That's exactly what I did when I made my diff lowering brackets. I'd previously made a diff "strap" to lock down the the output side ( or Pinion side.) When I modified the crossmember mount for the diff, I modified the strap as well, and now incorporate all three, lowering brackets and strap. BTW, when I made my diff lowering brackets I also was limited as to how far I could lower it by the skid plate. Lowered, the diff clears the skid plate by about 1/4". Any further lowering IMO, would be counter productive as the diff becomes even more exposed to damage. Oh, one more thing, now that I've pretty much made my own 3" lift and finished it, I got a call from Calmini yesterday. You guessed it, after 11 weeks, the 3" lifts are back in stock. Woopee.
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I might be interested in 2" brackets if the price is right. I was going to make my own, but I would just as soon buy some ready made.
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price
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Well guys I'm trying to work on these as fast as I can, but it is a process that I need to work through. Currently I'm still in the design stage and as I mentioned in my first post these will be a different design than what is currently offered from Calmini etc.
When I get the design/dimensions/angles finalized I will finish the drawings and then send them over to have a prototype set of brackets laser cut and CNC bent. After the brackets are done I can try them out to make sure that there are no tweaks that need to be made before I start punching them out. As soon as I know that the brackets are going to work like I envision and that no further changes need to be made I will be in a position to start talking price.
Once the design is set then the production of these should be fairly straight forward. Please be patient with me on this. I'm trying to squeaze this in to my schedule of working 40 - 45+ hours per week, 6 hours College classes per week plus home work assignments and tests, plus trying to let my family (my dear Wife and two sons) know that I still exist.
I guess what I'm saying is just hang in there and I hope that the end product will be to your liking and worth the wait.
Thanks everyone!!
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Any update on the product ;)
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With any luck I'll get some work done on them this weekend. I plan on dropping the front diff Saturday afternoon and building the proof of concept brackets at that time. After the weekend I'll post up whether my design is going to be feasable or not. Wish me luck!!
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Good Luck! Put me down for a set of the 2" version. Thanks! 8)
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Any update??? 8)
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FYI
kert from zilla off rd just got 6 sets of 3 inch drop dif laser cut call him for a set 503-334-7428
$100 buck a set
they worked great for me
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FYI
kert from zilla off rd just got 6 sets of 3 inch drop dif laser cut call him for a set 503-334-7428
$100 buck a set
they worked great for me
Do you have any pics of the Three pieces?
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Any update??? 8)
I've been working on this as I've had time. So far I have part of it done but I need to spend some time making sure that it won't interfere with the steering linkage before I go public with it. I might be forced to redesign it though.
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Hello not available yet but if I am interested in one of 2 "form my tracker 91.
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This is a pretty old thread - you might have better luck contacting Bits4Vits (http://www.bits4vits.co.uk/store/vitara-/-x90/cat_1.html)