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ZUKIWORLD Discussion Forum => Suzuki 4x4 Forum => Topic started by: museboy07 on May 28, 2007, 06:55:38 PM
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I just got my 2in coil spacers in now something in my front end clunk when i make a sharp turn...usually at slow speeds. My camber is way out till i get the bolts...coul this hae something to do with it? Im thinking the sharp turn is just put alot of stress on my cv's...not sure tho
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This COULD be normal with the alignment that far out, but sounds like the CVs are going out to me. I don't know why anyone would do the lift without correcting the camber - it's dangerous.
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If the coil spacers are actually 2" up front, the clunk is probably the cv's. They are probably not up to the task of handling the angles caused by your 3+ inches of front lift without any diff drop...
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Jeremiah..
what are the risk factors of the camber bein out? This will only be till my bolts come in
Digger..
Many people use 2in spacers up front..John1974 has 3in lift coils up there with no diff drop and no problems...i guess im just one of the unlucky ppl in this world
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Just a thought, are the tires hitting the frame at full lock?
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no real "DANGER" in having camber to far positive or negative, but you will burn though tires like crazy, and if cross caber is not in spec your truck will pull. just go to you local tire shop and have 'em through it on the alignment rack. the 100-150 dollars they will charge you to fix it right. just make sure you go to a reputable shop that will do an inspection, repace broken parts and give a warranty
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Good news guys..well sorta. I took the 'ol tracker in for an alignment (I'm an auto student so I was doing it myself) and when i got it all racked up i saw something that horrified me. The steel tubing that is welded to both of the front control arm brackets were CRACKED!!! I thought to myself "Oh Shit!!" Well anyway a guy i know came in and took a look at it and said "shit i can weld that back together" lol. I told him to go for it. What he did was weld 1/4" steel plates on both sides from steel tubing to the brackets that the front of the control arms bolt to. After this was all finished i took it out for a drive and no more clunks when I turned sharp. I was so happy!! I thought i might be towin this thing to the scrap yard..nope! Let me tell you all how this must of happed (cracking the front frame)
Well, it was the day after i got my 2in coil spacers in (yesterday) and I was with my girlfriend and decided to see what the 'ol tracker could do. So I went up into some local trails and was goin about 10mph in 4Low. All of a sudden...BOOM!! The tracker smashes to a complete stop!! I thought to myself SHIT!! I got out to see I rammed a foot tall tree stump with my front right tire. I was worried i blew out a tire but was surprised to see it was fine...I NEVER THOUGHT IT WOULD CRACK THE FRAME!! I'm glad I saw the crack today cause I could of seriously got hurt because two control were only bein held on by strut and ball joints. Oh well its all fixed so now i just gotta watch out for them damn tree stumps...those little bastards!! lol
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Digger..
Many people use 2in spacers up front..John1974 has 3in lift coils up there with no diff drop and no problems...i guess im just one of the unlucky ppl in this world
I also know of one person that has 3" coil spacers shoved in the front and back as well as huge strut extensions and he didn't bother to lower the diff at all. That Tracker's CV's lasted about 3 trail days total and I've never seen it back since. I'm not talking out of my a$$, I am speaking from personal experience. If you lift the front more than 2" to 2-1/2" total (or a max of a 1-1/2" front spacer) without lowering the diff, it's just a matter of time before you have problems. How soon the problems will show up depends on the age and wear of your CV's. If you have well-greased like-new ones, they might work just fine for a year or more at an extreme angle, but if you have the factory original ones with 100K miles or more on them, they might only last a month...
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Ok Digger, I'm gonna listen to you cause I know you have more trail experience then me. I'm gonna see if anyone wants to trade my 2in front spacers for some 1.5inchers and if not i'll buy some. But thanks for helpin me out. Feels good to know theres ppl like you out there.
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museboyo7, if you want a pair of 1.5" spacers for the front I'll send you some for $20 that includes shipping. Send me your address again and I'll hook you up before you tear the cv's up!!
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ok i'll get back to you next week for them spacers when i get paid. But what sucks is i did my alignment today and had my strut bolts welded to some washers for a permanent camber fix. Oh well i need new struts anyway...ill get back to you jeff!!
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OUCH!! sounds like the hits just keep coming for you. No hurry at all, just let me know. Maybe we can work something out, I might need some parts or something. I could let a pair of spacers go cheaper. Hope all works out.
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So your saying that 1.5" coil spacers will be fine with the CV's? I bought some awile back and I am waiting to get strut spacers and longer shocks to put them on just need to gather some motivation to do it lol.
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my cvs with the 2in spacers have been fine so far...but its only the third day with them on. But i did do some light wheelin yesterday and they held up. I actually have a spare set of cvs so when mine do break if they do...ill email you jeff...and what parts might you need?
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I'm gonna see if anyone wants to trade my 2in front spacers for some 1.5inchers
Just trim them on a band saw ;D If you don't have one, go to a woodworking shop, and pay the guy $10 to do it ;)
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I need front struts. As far as trimming my spacers down by cutting them on a bandsaw, not gonna happen. A bandsaw will not cut the plastic I use, it will just melt and ruin the blade. You could trim them down but turn them down in a lathe and do it on slow speed. the plastic I use is abrasion resistant so it does not want to cut or sand it just deflects.
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hey jeff...i see in your signature you use 2in coil spacers...how has everything been holding up? did you drop the diff?
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I only have the 2" in the rear. I still use 1.5" in the front. The bigger ones in back made it look just a little taller and I wanted to test my new 2" spacers. So far everything looks great, I would like to lift the front more too but I'm not sure I could even get the 2" in up front (as you already know it is TIGHT). As far as the cv's they still look great with the 1.5"up front. If you still want to swap 2-2" for 2-1.5" I will do it. Just send me like $10 to cover postage and I'll fire them off to you.
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hey jeff, i'll get back to you on the spacer swap you mentioned. Theres no more noise and i went wheelin this morning and everything held up well. But this time next week i'll get back to you on that. Anyway, what kind of custom strut spacers do you use? I flipped the mount but that is not enough droop cause i can only jack the front end up like maybe two inches before the wheels come off the ground
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I just copied the strut spacer some other company made. It looks just like the coil spacer but it has 3 little holes around it and one bog hole in the center.
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Digger..
Many people use 2in spacers up front..John1974 has 3in lift coils up there with no diff drop and no problems...i guess im just one of the unlucky ppl in this world
I also know of one person that has 3" coil spacers shoved in the front and back as well as huge strut extensions and he didn't bother to lower the diff at all. That Tracker's CV's lasted about 3 trail days total and I've never seen it back since. I'm not talking out of my a$$, I am speaking from personal experience. If you lift the front more than 2" to 2-1/2" total (or a max of a 1-1/2" front spacer) without lowering the diff, it's just a matter of time before you have problems. How soon the problems will show up depends on the age and wear of your CV's. If you have well-greased like-new ones, they might work just fine for a year or more at an extreme angle, but if you have the factory original ones with 100K miles or more on them, they might only last a month...
I may add mine is only like this til I drop the front diff. Also to be honest the cv angles arent as bad as you would think. But still going to drop the diff when I have the parts :)
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Hey john..i think having to drop the diff should be based on the way you drive your rig. Like me, i dont wheel to hard because this is the only vehicle i have to drive. If it breaks something major, then im screwed. My cv angles arent that bad either. Can you turn lock to lock with out and problems from your cvs?