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Title: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 28, 2004, 04:26:10 AM
I got into my tracker the other day, and couldn't help but notice a streak of fluid behind it on my drive way. I looked closer and it was green, coolant.

I checked under the hood to see that the resevoir tank was empty. I filled it up, by the end of the day leaving work a nice puddle was under the car again?

I checked my rad to see if there was any coolant missing, and it was fine. It just seems that the res. tank empty's out. I checked all over and couldn't find a hole, or leaky hose of any sort.

Does anyone know what MAY be the problem? Do trackers have this common issue? My next door neighbour said it may be my water pump?? Im not sure what to think?

Hoping you guys can help.

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: wildgoody on November 28, 2004, 04:59:03 AM
Which engine ?
Where is the puddle at (front or rear ? )
Mileage ?

Wild
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 28, 2004, 05:42:27 AM
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Which engine ?
Where is the puddle at (front or rear ? )
Mileage ?

Wild


It's the 1.6L 4x4
Puddle is in front slightly more over to the driver side, and the milage is at 206,000 km

Sorry, should have mentioned that.
Thx.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 28, 2004, 05:44:18 AM
Im thinking it also may be time for a timing belt and waterpump change? Is it like evry other car? roughly every 100,000km change.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: wildgoody on November 28, 2004, 06:00:01 AM
Drivers side = left side ??

Coolant tank on that side, check
the small hose from it.

~ center would be water pump,
there are weep holes, look for green
coolant stains or sediment in those,
if that is the case, change the timing
belt and all hoses while you have the
coolant out and the cover off

Good Luck
Wild
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: cj on November 28, 2004, 07:25:45 AM
 I had a leak just recently. At first I thought it was the cap as there was coolant around it. The plastic header tank on the radiator had a 4" split under the foam that is on it to stop air travelling over the top and not through the radiator. Actually that reminds me I should add some more as the bodylift creates a big gap again so it isn't working as good as it should.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: jerryp58 on November 28, 2004, 08:58:08 AM
Any car with 200k+ miles on it could have a coolant problem.

I had a heater hose leaking at the heater pipe underneath the intake manifold; very difficult to see.

Look under the hood while it's running and see if  you can see the leak.  If not, let the engine come up to operating temp and then shut it off and look again.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Rhinoman on November 28, 2004, 09:01:35 AM
When my car was 6 months old I had a major leak. It dumped all its coolant out because the bolt holding the metal water pipe into the rear of the water pump had fallen out.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 28, 2004, 10:41:31 AM
You guys are great. thanks for all the advice. I'll have to keep checking and see where it could be coming from. I'll be more thorough in my search. It could be something as small as a hose, hopefully.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 28, 2004, 10:43:18 AM
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Drivers side = left side ??

Coolant tank on that side, check
the small hose from it.

~ center would be water pump,
there are weep holes, look for green
coolant stains or sediment in those,
if that is the case, change the timing
belt and all hoses while you have the
coolant out and the cover off

Good Luck
Wild


Ya, driver side left side. I checked the bay just before sun down, and it seems to be on some parts in my motor, right under the res. tank. Motor mount, driver side, and it proceeds to leak to the floor.

Like I said I'll do a more thorough check, and hopefully it's a small prob.


Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 29, 2004, 10:29:56 AM
Checked my rad today, and it was bone dry!! I had to fill her up with a collant/water mix. I have yet to drive it but it doesn't look good ???

So it's basically leaking coolant from somewhere, hopefully not eating it, which would lead me to believe head gasket?
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: mperry on November 29, 2004, 10:47:05 AM
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Ya, driver side left side. I checked the bay just before sun down, and it seems to be on some parts in my motor, right under the res. tank. Motor mount, driver side, and it proceeds to leak to the floor.


I think Wild was probably onto this one. It's probably the tank or the hose. If you aren't down on coolant when you check the radiator, those are the logical places to look.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: wildgoody on November 29, 2004, 11:13:49 AM
A head gasket doesn't usually leak
outside of the engine, but if the radiator
is low, there is a coolant hose leaking
someplace, I would just dig into it and
replace the upper and both sections of
the lower main hoses, and replace the
heater hoses as well

I didn't ever find out if you have a 16V
engine or an 8V engine, the 16V also
has a heater hose on the back of the
head, and could be squirting to the left
side of the engine

Hoses are cheep compaired to a blown
head gasket, or worse, don't let it get
to the uhh ohh stage

Wild
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: SnoFalls on November 29, 2004, 11:40:50 AM
when your trying to find the leak ... pull the theromstat first, and then start it up. At least then you'll KNOW the coolant is flowing around (as opposed to just sitting in the block till warm enuf).

I agree it sounds like a hose is leaking.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 29, 2004, 01:41:12 PM
Thanks again all.

I will be taking her to my mech. tomorrow to hopefully find out it's a leaky hose.

You guys have been great help, especially Wild.

Thx again, and I'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: 92Sidekick4x4 on November 29, 2004, 01:45:39 PM
heater core???
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 29, 2004, 01:46:34 PM
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heater core???



Thought it might be but won't know till I check tomorrow. I'll be sure to make sure it's checked.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: 92Sidekick4x4 on November 29, 2004, 01:48:48 PM
k cuz thats what it sounds like to me
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 29, 2004, 02:38:13 PM
That would suck, cause I know those aren't cheap.

What are they like to change out for a new one, in terms of labour.

I know that in your average car it's a pain in butt.

On another note, I had my heater blowing in the tracker today and all of a sudden it stopped coming out of the vents??

I kept playing with the lever and the damn thing wouldn't come back on, then all of a sudden she's back on again?? Weird??
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: 92Sidekick4x4 on November 29, 2004, 02:42:22 PM
i think the most of the cost is instalation cuz they are usually whores to get out soo its hard to say what it would cost.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 29, 2004, 03:02:15 PM
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i think the most of the cost is instalation cuz they are usually whores to get out soo its hard to say what it would cost.


That's what i thought :-/

Any ideas why my heater fan would shut off and come back on? Loose connection maybe?
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: wildgoody on November 29, 2004, 04:28:20 PM
Ya, the solder comes off of the wire
on the back of the switch, I re-did
mine 2 times now, and I think it's doing
it again, just re-solder the connection
it will be fine.

Wild
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: wildgoody on November 29, 2004, 04:29:40 PM
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heater core???



The heater core is inside, his windows
would be steamed up big time, and coolant
would be all over the floor

Wild
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 29, 2004, 11:58:05 PM
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The heater core is inside, his windows
would be steamed up big time, and coolant
would be all over the floor

Wild


No coolant in the cabin, on the floor at all. My windows do not heat/sweat up at all.

As for the the fan lever, good to know Wild.  I'll check this out and fix it.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: jerryp58 on November 30, 2004, 02:43:24 AM
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The heater core is inside, his windows
would be steamed up big time, and coolant
would be all over the floor

Wild


Been there, done that  ::)
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: explosivo on November 30, 2004, 08:28:03 AM
A few weeks after I got my black Tracker, I had a moderate leak... after driving 8 miles, it'd end up draining all the coolant out of the reservoir and some out of the radiator. I checked, double-checked, and rechecked again EVERY single coolant line I could see... and you know what it ended up being? A small hose that runs from the metal rail on the block underneath the intake manifold to the bottom of the manifold had a split in it. Not only was it hard to find out in the first place, it was twice as hard to replace... I ended up tearing off the manifold just to get to it. fucking fat hands >:(
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Cwkick on November 30, 2004, 08:40:13 AM
Ham Fisted!  :D

Cwkick
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: explosivo on November 30, 2004, 11:37:38 AM
You's damn right...


And you best watch out or I'll eat your leg when you're not paying attention :P
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on November 30, 2004, 02:20:26 PM
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A few weeks after I got my black Tracker, I had a moderate leak... after driving 8 miles, it'd end up draining all the coolant out of the reservoir and some out of the radiator. I checked, double-checked, and rechecked again EVERY single coolant line I could see... and you know what it ended up being? A small hose that runs from the metal rail on the block underneath the intake manifold to the bottom of the manifold had a split in it. Not only was it hard to find out in the first place, it was twice as hard to replace... I ended up tearing off the manifold just to get to it. fucking fat hands >:(


I'll be sure to check there too! Thx again all.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Baloo on December 01, 2004, 05:24:24 AM
 :-/My heater core leaked in the gasket through the fore wall no leak inside but alot out side until I wiggled it then it leaked in and outside. The crack was on the return elbow. It was summer when I rebuilt the little beast so I did not worry too much about how long it took I just bypassed the core for awhile, now with snow falling it might be a big deal.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Chief on December 02, 2004, 04:57:43 AM
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A few weeks after I got my black Tracker, I had a moderate leak... after driving 8 miles, it'd end up draining all the coolant out of the reservoir and some out of the radiator. I checked, double-checked, and rechecked again EVERY single coolant line I could see... and you know what it ended up being? A small hose that runs from the metal rail on the block underneath the intake manifold to the bottom of the manifold had a split in it. Not only was it hard to find out in the first place, it was twice as hard to replace... I ended up tearing off the manifold just to get to it. fucking fat hands >:(


I bet this is your issue right here Boostn!!

I had the EXACT same hose split in my tracker also. I got long ass skinny fingers, so I didn't have to pull the manifold.  ;D (But I almost did!!!!)
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Digger on December 02, 2004, 09:35:16 AM
Wouldn't that be the wrong side of the engine?
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: jerryp58 on December 02, 2004, 12:23:30 PM
Have you checked it with the engine at operating temp and then shut the engine off?

If you have a pinhole leak (in the radiator tank, cooling fins, or a hose), it will spray out pretty strong when the engine is shut down.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Chief on December 02, 2004, 01:02:24 PM
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Have you checked it with the engine at operating temp and then shut the engine off?

If you have a pinhole leak (in the radiator tank, cooling fins, or a hose), it will spray out pretty strong when the engine is shut down.


That's how I finally found my leak.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Speedracer7c on December 02, 2004, 01:08:36 PM
Why not just get a dye and a black light?
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on December 02, 2004, 04:35:07 PM
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Have you checked it with the engine at operating temp and then shut the engine off?

If you have a pinhole leak (in the radiator tank, cooling fins, or a hose), it will spray out pretty strong when the engine is shut down.



My friend (mechanic) had a better look at it tonight while under the truck. It seems that it is actually leaking under the passenger side, towards the fron of the truck. He found some coolant laying on the front passenger side tie rod. We still couldn't see where it was coming from.

My under carriage is pretty dirty, and unless we power washed it we won't get a better idea.

What do you guys think?
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: BOOSTN on December 02, 2004, 04:36:01 PM
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Have you checked it with the engine at operating temp and then shut the engine off?

If you have a pinhole leak (in the radiator tank, cooling fins, or a hose), it will spray out pretty strong when the engine is shut down.


We tried that, along wiht a bunch of other tests and nothing  ???
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: Mike71 on December 02, 2004, 05:52:26 PM
try revving the engine in the driveway get it to like 4500 5k rpms and it should spray like a firehose

thats how i found my friends it would only leak under load
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: mperry on December 02, 2004, 06:21:16 PM
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It seems that it is actually leaking under the passenger side, towards the fron of the truck.


OK... it sounds like it's not the overflow tank or hoses leading to it.

It's probably time to replace the hoses on the rig. (I don't recall that you mentioned the year of the trucklet, but it's probably over 5 years since the hoses have been replaced.)

Stick on a couple radiator hoses and the leak will probably go away.
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: wildgoody on December 02, 2004, 06:25:32 PM
Ya, quit jacking around with the trucklet
and change the upper/lower and the little
hoses on the bottom of the intake and the
heater hoses, then give her a shot of fresh
50/50 anti freeze and be done with this leak.

This will cost you less than a blown motor

Wild
Title: Re: Coolant leak? Common on tracker?
Post by: jerryp58 on December 02, 2004, 09:28:37 PM
There's also the O-ring on the water pipe.  Mine wasn't leaking and it seemed like such a pain to get to that I didn't change it, but if/when I have the manifold off, I may do so.

Anyway, it's really likely it's one of those hoses attached to the water pipe, but, you may want to watch the throttle body and make sure you don't have a gasket leaking there.