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Title: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: S.Sidekick on July 30, 2007, 09:42:56 AM
i know that there are alot of 8v in this forum and they all like their thorley header.  but for the people that have the 16v  what are the like and dislikes of running the thorley header.  this will be my final decideing point so please leave coments.
S.Sidekick
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: Bandit02 on July 30, 2007, 09:46:48 AM
I'm looking forward to these replies, as I was in the process of pressing the "make payment" link on a thorley just a moment ago.
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: S.Sidekick on July 30, 2007, 10:20:41 AM
does anyone have any idea or experience on this????
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: Drone637 on August 01, 2007, 12:36:11 PM
Just give people a little while to log on.  It usually takes a day or two to get a couple responses.  :)
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: RACER X on August 01, 2007, 03:25:14 PM
Im running a doug thorley header on my beast and i love it  try looking up "Doug thorly header" in search feel free to ask any questions
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: crikeymike on August 01, 2007, 07:25:28 PM
I think the doug thorley for the 16V only came out a couple of years ago, so maybe not many people have them.  I've considered getting one, but not sure if it would be worth the $$ for any gain.
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: Yankee-Tim on August 02, 2007, 01:19:49 PM
Why not Calmini's?  I understand they are making them in stainless now.

http://www.puresuzuki.com/16v_header.htm (http://www.puresuzuki.com/16v_header.htm)
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: ToyYoda on August 02, 2007, 01:55:11 PM
I have run both headers on my X90. The 4 into one type was chrome & the tri-y is now a ceramic. Don't know how much diff. the coating makes but it sure looks better & cleaner with ceramic. As for performance the tri-y (thorley) has the edge over the 4 into one header. It pulls a little stronger off the line. I would recommed Thorley in ceramic.
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: crikeymike on August 02, 2007, 02:09:46 PM
I heard from some guy that they give 9HP gain in a fully stock configuration...   ;)
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: erik the red on August 02, 2007, 04:13:04 PM
  I would corroborate the 9hp gain in stock configs. I've seen that online. (of course, I've also heard that you can take any hp gain the manufacturer says and cut it in about half!!)  I am considering Thorley ceramic myself, and to my it would be worth it for the sound alone, and the 9 hp would be icing on the cake.
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: S.Sidekick on August 07, 2007, 03:12:44 PM
hey ill get the pics up soon i love the thing no probs yet. dont listen to the torque specs they give you.  it said torque to 35 ft/lbs but that stretched my studs to far. the  manaul for my rig is 18 so i set a good 23ft/lbs all around.  my skid plates that i have from calmini hit on my cat convertor so the shop knows me and gave me a magnaflow high flow  cat the things abou 15lbs lighter than the stock cat and were as the stock cat was about a foot and a 1/2 long this one is 5 inches and still smog legal,  the kicker has a sound like no other everyone loves it.  so the entire system is...

Long tube thorley header, into a magnaflow high flow cat, 2" pipe into a spin tech exhaust, and 2.5 out with a point down tip.  noticable power increase heck yes!!!
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: DaddyDave on August 07, 2007, 09:41:12 PM
gave me a magnaflow high flow cat ....

You do realize the CALMINI unit is a High-Flow Magnaflow with their collector welded to it, right?  I wonder if they knew it and told you otherwise.
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: S.Sidekick on August 08, 2007, 10:06:57 AM
wut are you talking about?
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: Yankee-Tim on August 08, 2007, 02:47:15 PM
Just ordered the CALMINI set up for my 16V 4dr.  I got the Stainless Steel header and and full exhaust.  Just got to add a direct fit, full flow Cat for a full new set up.

If S/S is available, for the extra few $$$, why go with ceramic or, ugh!, chrome?

The only reason I would say Thorley, is the CARB cert.  But I know a few guys running the 8V CALMINI header in CALI and use the Thorley CARB cert and no one knows the difference.  CALMINI's head has the correct squared ports and flows better than the Thorley.
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: Uncivilized on August 08, 2007, 05:43:09 PM
ceramic
Ceramic looks cool
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: whateverworks on August 08, 2007, 10:26:29 PM
The reason for Ceramic Coating is this... One it does not stain or blue from heat or oil and 2 it dissipates heat extremely fast. I have heard headers that were ceramic coated inside and out be cool to the touch within minutes.
Kelly
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: S.Sidekick on August 12, 2007, 06:24:46 PM
k i just put the pics up their in a new post titled swamper decal and finished kick.  let me know what you think
Title: Re: has anyone run a 1.6 16v header???
Post by: Yankee-Tim on August 13, 2007, 05:59:32 AM
The reason for Ceramic Coating is this... One it does not stain or blue from heat or oil and 2 it dissipates heat extremely fast. I have heard headers that were ceramic coated inside and out be cool to the touch within minutes.
Kelly

Well, I guess if you like burnt fingers go ahead and touch it a few minutes after you shut it off.  I have the ceramic coated header on my Sammy, and it don't cool down that fast.  It's nice and all, and helped keep the rust down (it still rusted a tad because NY roads are basically friggin' piles of rock salt), but stainless is stainless.

My latest kick is rust prevention.  Rust makes me sick.  I've put a lot of time, money and effort into building my trucks, and rust seems to creep in.  I don't want to invest $20K into my truck just to watch it turn into a pile of iron oxide.  I'm swapping a out a fair share of hardware for metric 8 and higher equivelent stainless, and using liberal amounts of anti-seize.