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Title: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Jeff@TireBalls on August 14, 2007, 04:34:53 PM
Ok, I'm getting ready to buy new lockouts for my Grand Vitara. Can those with experience with each of these hubs give me their opions.

I like these for their cost but the description says they have nylon internals which sounds odd...

AVM (Rugged Ridge)

(http://cdalejef.smugmug.com/photos/184007520-M.jpg)

Super Winch

(http://cdalejef.smugmug.com/photos/184007526-M.jpg)

Warn standard

(http://cdalejef.smugmug.com/photos/184007542-M.jpg)

Warn Premium

(http://cdalejef.smugmug.com/photos/184007533-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: g-man on August 14, 2007, 06:16:27 PM
I have the AVM ones and they seem pretty good, no problems yet. If I had the money at the time though I would have went warn premium.  ???
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: whateverworks on August 14, 2007, 09:20:22 PM
Use stock sidekick locking hubs... Much cheeper and VERY RELIABLE. It is very rare I hear people breaking the stock AISIN hubs... Save yer money for other mods.
Kelly
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Jeff@TireBalls on August 15, 2007, 05:03:14 AM
I have been looking for the last 3 weeks for a pair of OEM used. They either want as much as a new pair of aftermarkets or they need a rebuild. I did finally win a pair on ebay but once I got them I found that the bearings are shot and one is missing a spring and the other has two broken tabs.  >:(
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: beercheck on August 15, 2007, 06:57:24 AM
Call me crazy, but the AVM and Superwinch sure look a lot like they share some parts.
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Uncivilized on August 15, 2007, 08:58:46 AM
I have been looking for the last 3 weeks for a pair of OEM used.
What happened to the original ones on the rig?
Did you try Sean |removethispart|@ aftermarket 4x4?

www.aftermarket4x4.com
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Jeff@TireBalls on August 15, 2007, 09:13:56 AM
Grand Vitara's never came with manual locking hubs.

I haven't tried him but I will, thanks.
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: geeeeoooo on August 15, 2007, 02:36:06 PM
i just recently bought the mile marker premium hubs from "VATOZONE"....115.99.....but for 25 bucks more than the plastic cheapo hubs ya can get metal ones....just my .02....
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Jeff@TireBalls on August 15, 2007, 02:47:57 PM
By plastic are you talking about the AVM's?
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: geeeeoooo on August 15, 2007, 03:05:59 PM
yes sir....the inner gear on them is made of a nylon plasctic type stuff.....says right in the desctiption on one of the sites i was looking at about them, i almost bought them, but autozone could have them quicker, so thats where i went
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: whateverworks on August 15, 2007, 09:12:37 PM
I'll tell ya what... I will sell you a pair of AISIN hubs off an earlier sidekick with the bolts and conical washer ready to go and rebuilt for $50USD plus shipping. I'm in Canada...
Kelly
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: dc6287 on August 15, 2007, 09:19:06 PM
warn primos are the best by far but $$$, next in line would for sure be aisens. Superwinch allen heads tend to strip out which can be a pain if something goes wrong on the trail.
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: HotRod on August 15, 2007, 09:52:41 PM
warn primos are the best by far but $$$, next in line would for sure be aisens. Superwinch allen heads tend to strip out which can be a pain if something goes wrong on the trail.

Actually I heard it was the other way around.
I Have SuperWinch Hubs on my 95 kick.
They're still on too.
I'm happy with them.
even after I busted my front dif.
replaced that with the GV steel one (long ago)
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: kingzoo on August 16, 2007, 05:17:16 AM
   Warn premium,no doubt.Last forever,easier to engage/disengage,and can take a beating.
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Jeff@TireBalls on August 16, 2007, 05:32:18 AM
I'll tell ya what... I will sell you a pair of AISIN hubs off an earlier sidekick with the bolts and conical washer ready to go and rebuilt for $50USD plus shipping. I'm in Canada...
Kelly

Can you send me pics to cdalejef|removethispart|@ bellsouth.net
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: whateverworks on August 16, 2007, 09:28:30 PM
I'll tell ya what... I will sell you a pair of AISIN hubs off an earlier sidekick with the bolts and conical washer ready to go and rebuilt for $50USD plus shipping. I'm in Canada...
Kelly

Can you send me pics to cdalejef|removethispart|@ bellsouth.net

They look like hubs... LOL What ya need a pic for :)
Kelly
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: whateverworks on August 17, 2007, 08:32:38 AM
Suzuki Sidekick AISIN hub photo...

(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n190/parttimepsycho/hubshot.jpg)

There ya go Jeff|removethispart|@TireBalls... Ya there a bit scuffed but I will paint them as well... Working fine... All there and ready to bolt on yer Sammy... Sidekick... Vitara... Grand Vitara... Or even a Toyota. Might even fit an XL7 but not 100% sure about that.
Kelly
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Rhinoman on August 17, 2007, 11:04:06 AM
The Warn Standards are OE on a lot of the Zuks over here. They have a plastic cam in them that is prone to breaking.
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: Jimiweld on August 17, 2007, 03:12:48 PM
I would go with the AISIN hubs as well, they work great and are inexpensive. I put a set in since mine came stock with the auto hubs and I haven't had any troubles at all. I've heard bad things about the ones that don't use the conical lock washers with them coming off, actually I think it was  an old thread on here, that's what made me choose the AISIN.
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: geeeeoooo on August 17, 2007, 04:16:36 PM
really?? the ones without the conical lock washers are prone to becoming loose?? or even worse falling off?? thats no good....i'll have to keep an eye on that....i just bought (last week) the mile marker premium's from autozone and they didnt have the conical washers....just bolts, and i also noticed how much smaller the 6 cap retaining screws are....but they are nice hubs, thou
Title: Re: Hub experiences wanted
Post by: JoeCool on August 17, 2007, 06:01:26 PM
My Warn Premiums work fine and seal better than the 17 yr old stock units, I did notice a few weeks ago that all the mounting bolts had come loose and wished they had the connical lock washers, The pait chips a little and they stick out wider than stock. Which only tells me I need wider rims and tires. Mostly they are worth it just for peice of mind.           NMc